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MTA to F and G Train Riders: Fugettaboutit!

Tuesday, January 04, 2011

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F and G train riders can say Farewell and Goodbye to regular service for the next two years.

From January 10 until May 2011, there will be no service at the 15th Street-Prospect Park Station and Fort Hamilton Parkway Station for Manhattan-bound F or Queens-bound G trains. At the Smith-9th St Station, there will be no Manhattan-bound F service.

Riders can catch Manhattan-bound F and Queens-bound G trains at a temporary platform set up at the Coney Island-bound side of the Fourth Avenue-Ninth Street stop.

The MTA is beginning major renovations on the Smith-Ninth Street and Fourth Avenue-Ninth Street stations, both of which occupy the Culver Viaduct high over the Gowanus Canal. 

The Smith-9th Street station will be closed from late May 2011 through Spring 2012. After it reopens, there will be no Coney Island-bound F trains at the station until Fall 2012.

From late fall 2011 to spring 2012, expect no Coney Island-bound F or Church Avenue-bound G train service at the 15th Street-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Parkway stations. All southbound trains will stop on the express track at the Church Avenue and 7th Avenue stations.

This weekend’s F and G service between Jay Street-MetroTech and Church Avenue will be replaced by free shuttle buses in both directions. 

The MTA's description of service changes related to the the $275.5 million Culver Viaduct Rehabilitation Project is here.

 

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Comments [11]

@sheacox You're right. Work has been postponed a week because of the forecast of snow: http://bit.ly/igOpoT

@PIEfromBrooklyn For a thoughtful post on MTA's long-term public outreach on large projects, check out the indispensable blog, 2nd Ave Sagas:
http://bit.ly/eMPIrH

Jan. 06 2011 05:47 PM
PIE from Brooklyn

There has been advance notice, albeit not very good. I've known about this since July 2009, when they extended the G train to Church Ave. NOT that it makes it any better. People living between 15th & Ft. Hamilton are completely f'ked, and the same will happen to the entire population of Red Hook when Smith & 9th closes.

Jan. 06 2011 08:38 AM

Signs showed up this morning, along with pamphlets. There will be no shuttle buses; riders have to go backwards to Church, then catch a Manhattan train.

Also, a sign added this evening says they postponed it for a week because of a snow forecast.

Jan. 05 2011 07:05 PM
effedinWT

Evan from the BX - have you ever *been* to Windsor Terrace or Red Hook (the two most affected neighborhoods)? Not exactly hipster country. Either way, we all know maintenance has to be done on the tracks - but I work in heavy construction and there is no way this work should take two years to complete. Plus, I may be able bodied myself, but a half hour walk to a subway for an elderly or infirm person in the dead of winter is no joke. It also would have been nice to have a little more advance notice. This really is a slap in the face a week after a massive fare hike. So please don't criticize us for complaining.

Jan. 05 2011 04:12 PM

@LZ Thanks for pointing out that sentence, which didn't make sense because the second half got chopped off. It's back. Sorry for the confusion and let us know if you still have questions.

And thanks @GinBK for posting a link to the MTA page with details on the disruptions. I've added it to the end of the story.

@clg We plan to keep track of this project and report on any delays.

@Mitch We're looking into the shuttle bus question. Stay tuned.

@Evan As the new transportation reporter, I'm interesting in covering even the non-hipster parts of the transit system. Feel free to email me with tips or requests for coverage: jogrady (at) wnyc.org.

@sheacox Are there still no signs at your stop? We're looking into that, too.

Jan. 05 2011 03:13 PM
clg

...and that's *without* factoring in the inevitable multi-month delays typical of MTA construction projects.

and this great news coincides with even MORE expensive fares!

there is no reason this construction needs to take years. shut everything down for a month, hire an ample workforce, and work nonstop. You'll probably save more money in the long run.

Jan. 05 2011 01:54 PM
G in BK

Full info can be found here:

http://www.mta.info/mta/news/releases/?agency=nyct&en=110104-NYCT2

LZ - "In future phases of the project, the Smith-9th Sts station will close completely for rehabilitation from late May 2011 through Spring 2012. Then from the Spring of 2012 to the Fall of 2012, there will be no Coney Island-bound F trains at the Smith-9th Street station."

Jan. 05 2011 12:25 PM
LZ

What does this mean?

"From late fall 2011 to spring 2012, expect no Coney Island-bound F or Church Avenue-bound G train service until fall 2012."

At... which stations? All stations? Does the G closure extend from late fall 2011 through fall 2012, or from spring 2012 through fall 2012?

Come on...

Jan. 05 2011 11:14 AM
Mitch from Brooklyn

What bothers me most about this change is that there is no alternative. Why can't the MTA provide a shuttle bus to replace the stops? My commute just changed drastically and I don't see any way that the MTA is trying to make this right. I understand that construction needs to happen from time to time, and I'm not upset that my station is half closed. I'm upset by the lack of options.

Jan. 05 2011 10:52 AM
Evan from Bronx

The MTA has had a similar service stoppage at the Dyckman street station on the #1 train in upper Manhattan because of construction for a while, but I have never heard a peep about it on WNYC. I guess there are not enough hipsters up here to warrant the air time. Believe it or not, these things are happening all the time in other parts of the city, aside from Brooklyn and Manhattan.

Jan. 05 2011 10:51 AM

I heard this on WNYC this morning, and I am furious! Beginning in a couple of days, my commute to Manhattan will be totally screwed, yet there was no notice given to affected passengers. No signs, nothing. I just looked on the MTA's site, under Planned Service Changes, checked the F train listings, and there is NOTHING about this.

Your story only mentions shuttle buses for this weekend, but presumably we will be subjected to the usual snail-slow, continually backed up option during weekdays, as well?

Steph in Brooklyn

Jan. 05 2011 08:48 AM

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