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On the Hunt

Thursday, December 09, 2010

Anthony Licata, editor in chief of Field and Stream, talks about the bear hunt in New Jersey and Sarah Palin's caribou.

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Comments [47]

These Jersey people are terrible and truly ignorant! There are much bigger bear problems in WA, MT and ID but the park services take care of it. NOT by hunting but by utilizing Kaerilian Bear Dogs and bean bags.

Brian, this segment was awful because of the people you let on the show. the one guy actually said "Are we supposed to live amongst the bears?" YES! Bears are keystone species. Respect them, don't feed them and stop developing in their habitat.

There is a huge overpopulation of dear in NJ that has been ongoing these Pailin-esque hunters haven't managed to do anything about it. Its a more ignorant decision than the pull out of the tunnel project. Forget DIRTY jersey.

Dec. 10 2010 12:28 AM
maggie from nj

What a disappointment--I cannot believe this!!! What happened to your sense of fairness, Brian? Field and Stream? Really? You showcase a hunting magazine editor and have no representative for the opposing view!! Most of his statements would be shot full of holes by a true environmentalist. I am really shocked by this and, actually quite disgusted. You owe it to the wildlife and the people of NJ who see this issue very differently to give a voice on your show. to an expert who is not bought and paid for by hunters. And soon.

I know you from years of listening to your show that you are very astute in the area of politics, but you have relatively little interest in nature and are not knowledgeable about the animal world. And your guest took advantage of that. You ask, why there is this recent increase in bear sightings. He tells you because they haven't been hunted in years, and you accept that. I'm flabbergasted.

Dec. 09 2010 10:37 PM
Ben from NJ

"Outdoorsinbrooklyn" does make some very valid points concerning how meat is processed before reaching our local market, but this topic is more about what I consider sport hunting. You evidently live in Brooklyn (a place where I grew up and still have many friends), i live in West Milford, NJ, in the heart of bear counrty. The reason why people are against the hunt is because the bears really do not pose any real threat. Yes, they get in the garbage every now and then, but other than that they dont have that much of an impact. When a bear is on our street (especially a female with cubs), the neighbors all call one another to give each other a heads-up that they are around. It's usually the newcomers to the area that have more fears and concerns.

Dec. 09 2010 06:35 PM
Eugenia Renskoff from Brooklyn

Hi, Brian, I feel sad for the black bears. So I definitely don't agree with the person from Field and Stream or the caller who said that hunting (I think) was not a fun sport. I am sure that for some people that's exactly what it is, a thing to do with buddies so that later they can have a beer or two. Why don't they bond some other way, like by taking a writing class or being good to human beings? I never thought about animals much, but after I had dogs and my cat, I began to care about their welfare. When your Field and Stream guest said he ate the bear meat with his family, I almost turned off the radio. Eugenia Renskoff

Dec. 09 2010 05:07 PM
Beth

I had to turn off this show this morning. The Daily Record ran a great piece on this that featured the former DEP head - clearly not in agreement with the hunt, whose viewpoint is also supported by wildlife specialists and scientists who are familiar with the situation here in NJ.

Dec. 09 2010 02:39 PM
outdoorsinbrooklyn from New York

People...while a bear hunt may seem unfathomable so close to "home" the truth is it's a reasonable alternative to the poisoning or other control methods use to cull wildlife populations. You don't want to know what they do to seagulls, pigeons, rodents and the like to keep population down. At least hunters will ethically put food on their tables and maybe the bear meat can be used to feed the homeless (through Hunters for the Hungry or other groups). When's the last time PETA offered to put food on your table or in a homeless shelter?

Mark: you have no problems buying your chicken, pork or steak at a grocery store right? Why don't you learn about how your food is tortured and hacked to pieces so you can buy it at a grocery store. Then you'll have an educated comment to make.

Bernie: How'd you kill the last mouse in your house? Peanut butter on the mouse trap? Or the annoying pigeons who crap on your head? Try to run them over in your car?

Julian: maybe you should do some research on how paying for hunting licenses actually go to conservation efforts like reseeding trees and cleaning up streams so you can enjoy your precious outdoors. When's the last time you picked up trash on the beach or funded wildlife conservation funds through your own pocket?

Everyone is very quick to jump to conclusions here when in reality ALL of us are guilty of being hypocrites. Next time you go to buy your leather jacket, or your whole chicken at the supermarket think about what you're supporting. No one is calling you any names or trying to behead you for buying that bird or jacket are they? Stop being so ignorant and do some research before you make irrational comments.

Dec. 09 2010 01:57 PM
Ben

Despite the fact that one caller suggested that the "vast majority" of hunters respect and care for wildlife and their environment, I find that to be a small percent. My experience is that most hunters I know do not abide by the laws and generally like to make their own rules. We owned 140 acres of land in Sullivan county and I used to spend endless hours putting up "posted land no hunting signs". Then I spent more hours knocking their illegal perches out of my trees and cleaning up their Budweiser cans. This happened year after year until we sold the land. I don't really see hunters as environmentalists.

Dec. 09 2010 01:47 PM
Peg from rural NY

To dal et al - The killing mindset will end when we stop legally killing other humans - in war, in abortions, capital punishment and pollution. Perhaps then, with more humane awareness, we can live and let live with nature - Humans are not anywhere close to that at the present.

Dec. 09 2010 01:09 PM

People have taken over most of the land in NJ, covered 25% of it with ashphalt, plowed over the habitat and then call their work development. Our attitude has been, the land was fallow, there was nothing on it, and we can make it profitable! At the same time people shower their kids with picture books full of the cutest little animals, cover the house with teddy bears, and push sanitized animal story dvd's. Why can't people understand that our sprawl has reduced habitat to patchwork and these animals who naturally roam have no choice other than to overlap our tidy suburban communities. If we really care about these animals like we tell our kids, then we need to learn to live WITH nature. The lists of animals we've hunted nearly to extinction include the American buffalo, whose vast population once covered the plains. This
killing mindset must end.
I take issue with the hunter who said it wasn't about the thrill of the kill. If that were the case, why don't they use paint guns??

Dec. 09 2010 12:30 PM
Peg from Rural NY

I'd like to know how many of today's commenters actually live out in nature and watch the minute to minute interactions of plants and animals? Nature is cruel. Ever watch an opossum disembowel a bird while it's still living? This goes on all the time in our natural world. When humans decide to limit their numbers, perhaps we can let nature take it's course - which will continue to be inhumane by definition.

Dec. 09 2010 12:17 PM
Jean Freely from NYC

Eco groups recommend common sense ways to dispose of your garbage and detract bears from discovering and encroaching on peoples property/homes.

Dec. 09 2010 12:12 PM
Nick from UWS

There are countless people who go out and enjoy nature without blowing some innocent animal's brains out.

This guy and people like him have very serious problems.

Dec. 09 2010 12:07 PM
Third Watchman from New Jersey

It is a shame, a real shame that you have to take a shot at Sarah Palin for hunting and her skill at it. Is it necessary? "What does this has to do with the price of beans?" You attack Conservatives and romanticize Liberals on this show!

Dec. 09 2010 12:06 PM

Margot
well i just hope i don't die by someone shoting me while i'm looking for breakfest for my family and u is that how u want to die

Dec. 09 2010 12:06 PM
Esther from nyc

"All beings tremble before violence, All fear death. All love life. See yourself in others. Then whom can you hurt? What harm can you do?" ~ Buddha

I wonder how these "nature-loving" hunters feel if other humans hunt them down for fun while they're unarmed.

Dec. 09 2010 12:05 PM
Matthew Moshen from Great Neck, NY

I understand the need to cull overpopulation through hunting, but to listen to this guy from Field & Steam try to explain the "sport" of hunting is truly sickening.

Dec. 09 2010 12:04 PM
julie from katonah, NY

I think that if someone says that he or she is hunting out of the natural hunter-gatherer DNA in all of us, then they should embody that drive, not by using a gun - an unnatural weapon - but with use of their own hands and legs; the breath in their own lungs. After all, our flesh and blood is our DNA, not some trigger that is far easier to pull than sprinting on foot. Don't hide behind the gun. If you want to hunt and gather, then act like a hunter and gatherer: use your body to achieve the experience as it was originally intended.

Dec. 09 2010 12:04 PM
Margot Klein

Everything dies, people. Bears. You. Someday *you're* going to die, and with less dignity than the bear: senile, hopped up on drugs, wearing a diaper.

Dec. 09 2010 12:03 PM

this was a gross one sided segment.

but thanks for not censoring me. i didn't think some of my comments would stand, but i did hold back a bit out of respect :)

Dec. 09 2010 12:02 PM
Jean Freely from NYC

Appalling journalism, Brian, not to interview any opposing voice to this -- I am disappointed you would not include an interview with someone from NRDC or another animal protection group.

Dec. 09 2010 12:02 PM
Stephanie

THIS IS SICKENING. MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD STOP ENCROACHING ON ANIMAL'S HABITAT!!!
I hope Brian gives air time the humane society to refute the guest's caviler attitude about killing creatures.
If you want to kill a bear why not take the animal on with your bare hands! Wonder who would win that contest,

Dec. 09 2010 12:01 PM
Nick from UWS

"The point is to go out there and enjoy the hunt".

This guest is the very definition of a sociopath...the inability to empathize with the feelings or situation of another living creature. Just disgusting.

Dec. 09 2010 12:00 PM
Mark

Yuck. These people are in such denial. May they all come back as hunted animals.

Dec. 09 2010 11:59 AM

brian
how is this a sport? who keeps score?
have the bears ever won this sport?

Dec. 09 2010 11:59 AM
Peg from Upstate NY

When wildlife populations become overpopulated - if they are not hunted by humans, many will die of starvation and in their weakened state will be hunted and mauled by coyotes, hit by cars and die of other natural causes - which are very cruel compared to being killed quickly in the hunt. Why assume that hunters kill for THE FUN of killing? Staying out in the woods all day in frigid temps is not fun. If there was a bear foraging in my agricultural fields and my yard, I would want to have him for dinner. There are many, many more bear and deer killed from traffic accidents than those who hunters left in the field.

If we didn't hunt, citizens would be screaming bloody murder about out of control wildlife invading HUMAN territory.

Dec. 09 2010 11:58 AM
Nick from UWS

"The point is to go out there and enjoy the hunt".

This guest is the very definition of a sociopath...the inability to empathize with the feelings or situation of another living creature. Just disgusting.

Dec. 09 2010 11:58 AM
Christian from Park Slope

To the editor of Field and Stream, I can appreciate your wanting to experience nature keenly, most of us are contented to have fellow respect for living creatures. They are innocent animals in their own environment. Feed your family? It's time to evolve, come out of the cave, it's not so bad being an evolved human.

Dec. 09 2010 11:58 AM
aaron

your guest tries to present this as semi scientific enterprise, condoned by professionals in order to control population numbers. the idea that shooting by amateurs is the most humane method is absurd. If these animals need to be euthanized, is should be done by professionals, using tranquilizer darts etc.

Dec. 09 2010 11:57 AM
Sharon from NJ

Not a blood sport Jim? You must be joking. Not fun for you? ha! You must believe you're playing god then.

Fulfill your natural need for hunting? Try using a hunting knife for your bear kill then maybe you can prove your manhood to your friends/family.

Dec. 09 2010 11:57 AM
To EstelleInAustin from Westchester

Your friend is right: the dogs LOVE the hunt. The dog is a predator, and for once you get to see its instinct light up. Dogs behave differently hunting than they do in your back yard.

Dec. 09 2010 11:57 AM
Joyce Goodman from Manhattan

Hunting is cultivating the worst part of human nature.
Every child feels "good" from beating up a younger sibling until they learn better and learn empathy. Anyone might feel "good and natural" vanquishing a weaker individual. These animals are just OK to hunt like blacks were OK to to kill and Jews were OK to kill in different circumstances. These guys are fooling themselves.

Dec. 09 2010 11:57 AM
Amy from Manhattan

If what you're really going for the camaraderie & being out in nature, why can't you do that--& maybe even stalk an animal--without killing them?

Dec. 09 2010 11:56 AM
April Miala from Jersey City

Unless people are hunting as a means of survival, then all types of hunting in my opinion is wrong! If you want to hunt, get a bow and arrow and head to the jungle.
Killing bears is not humane or right, they have just as much right to me here then us!

Dec. 09 2010 11:56 AM

I'm a photographer. I go out and 'stalk' the animals, try to get up close. And I don't kill a thing.

This pretense that hunters are 'conservationists' is simply false. Check out what is happening to wolves in Idaho.

Dec. 09 2010 11:55 AM
Julian from Manhattan

Maybe these hunters should try non-violent communion with nature, like binoculars/ birds or a camera. Yes we do eat meat, and buy it at the supermarket, but hunting is cold-blooded murder: what's the big difference in our anthropocentric universe between killing a bear in cold blood or a human?

Dec. 09 2010 11:55 AM

Not being a hunter myself, I asked a family friend---a veterinarian who hunts quail---why he likes to hunt. His passionate answer surprised me: "The dogs. I just love to watch the dogs."

Dec. 09 2010 11:54 AM
joan from Brooklyn

Did someone just say "when you go out there, the odds are against you as a hunter"?????

Dec. 09 2010 11:54 AM
Juli from Skillman, NJ

I actually know somebody that does go out for the fun of it. He was joking just the other day that he was getting the shakes and was thrilled that hunting season was coming about because if it didn't, he was going to shoot the neighbor's dog. So, I don't know these people as decent people. I know them as killers that get off on doing something disgusting.

And, they become nasty when I ask them to leave my yard. Yes, my yard is posted. They are disrespectful of others property.

Dec. 09 2010 11:54 AM

"it not fun to kill but it's fun to hunt" what?

Dec. 09 2010 11:53 AM
Bob

I think we should declare WAR against the Bears, send in the military and create a Dept of Homeland Security from the Bears.

Dec. 09 2010 11:52 AM
bernie from bklyn

hunting is one thing, but the way these "men" are hinting these bears is sickening. they just put out food; a plate of corn...wait for the bear to come and eat it, then blow it away. and they get a thrill from it....pussies, in my opinion

Dec. 09 2010 11:51 AM
Mark

Really? You have to kill wildlife to eat? No grocery stores where you live?

Dec. 09 2010 11:51 AM
Marsha Paul in Hoboken


Bears don't die of old age in rest homes, folks. Shooting a bear is much more humane than letting it starve to death or forcing it to forage in urban areas.

Dec. 09 2010 11:50 AM

tim
why not hunt people, it's more fun

Dec. 09 2010 11:50 AM

As a bear hunter myself I can tell u it’s the only way I can feel like a man to kill unarmed animals, it’s a lot more fun than beating my wife.

Dec. 09 2010 11:49 AM
Sarah Palin Izz Kinda Hott!

Carribou r kinda hott!

Dec. 09 2010 11:45 AM

the view from Field and Stream, really!
i hope they paid al lot to be a corporate sponsor. i see no other reason for the free air time.
As for the bears. To kill animals just to make urban sprawl more convenient seems immoral to me

Dec. 09 2010 10:37 AM

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