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Susan Page, USA Today's Washington bureau chief, gives an update on the latest happenings in politics over Thanksgiving weekend, including the release of new classified documents by Wikileaks.
What a bunch of baby cries the politicians and "world leaders" are!!!!!What they think that people are surprised by any of this information?????Every politician ,royal family member,authhoritarian leader,religious leader and diplomat is simultaneously jerking each other off whilst backstabbing and sucking the money out of the people of the country...Wake up world this is how governments work...
Applause for Wikileaks who existed before this ever came to light...
without wiki leaks how would we ever know what's going on? there's such a history of cover up and obfuscation of all important matters of government's actions...
I think it is always better to know what is really going on than not to know. It is especially interesting that many Arab leaders agree that the president of Iran is not 'all there'. We have a right to know the facts and I am very proud of Wiki Leaks.
Why is the answer NEVER "Conduct yourself in an honorable manner and no leak will hurt you or your country?"
It's not WikiLeaks fault if the the files contain shabby behavior...
trying to discredit those with whom you disagree by calling them stupid and nuts is never advisable.
good, solid segment, Brian.
During the "Dirty War" in Argentina in 1976, filmmaker Raymundo Gleyzer was abducted by the military and killed within 2 months. A year-long campaign by the Emergency Committee to Defend Latin American Filmmakers, of which I was a part, asked the US Congress and US State Dept. to intervene. I was repeatedly informed that the US Embassy was "making inquiries." At the same time, Kissinger was advising the Argentina Junta, "If you can finish before Congress gets back, the better." http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB104/index.htm . Having just relived this by testifying before an Argentine court prosecuting the torturers who killed Raymundo and some 30,000 others, YES, I would have wanted to know that at the time.
So I want to know this information NOW, just just historically.
One of the consequences of wikileaks is that the Pfc Manning who Allegedly gave these items of info to his friends who passed it along to Asange, is that he will go to jail. Too bad, because in the long run , we'll find that he did this country a service. That said I think matters of state should be private. The other thing is that you can bet that the ever encroaching legislation to curtail internet freedoms will become stronger.
Don't blame (or shoot) the messanger for these leaks - Wikileaks actually has helpedexpose key weaknesses in U.S. counter-intelligence. Anything they got and made public, you can expect that our enemies have had for quite some time.
Either :1) The U.S. has a gaping set of holes in itscomputer security / encryption (and the NSA has been asleep at the wheel). or2) We have some fairly high level molescollecting and leaking this vast amount of data. or3) We wanted it leaked (at very high levels). (see below).
One benefit of the leak is that it became publicly clear to Iran and others how many of Iran's arab neighbors want the U.S. to stop them from obtaining nuclear technology AT ANY COST.
This may be very important to publicly leak to Iran and to make publicly known at this key period where it still may be possible to stop them.
Just a thought.
In any case, Wikileaks has done the U.S. and the international community a service in exposing the fig leaves that cover manyof our low level secret correspondences.Don't blame the messanger because youdon't like the message. Perhaps theU.S. should review how come our systemis so exposed - before our enemies usesuch weaknesses to actually cause us harm.
Sorry John From Your Nazi Office, that comment is nuts
our embassy should be able to communicate in the confidence of privacy, SIRPNET access should not have allow access to all content within it, wikileaks just published info that was made available to it by one of our own with SIRPNET access, perhaps the silver lining here is that SIRPNET content will be segmented.
Seemingly out of habit, the press refers to Wikileaks as a whistleblowing entity. At times it is. But when Wikileaks exposes candid reports from foreign diplomats to international scrutiny, what exactly are they blowing the whistle on? These diplomats were not doing anything wrong. Their reports were raw materials that are to be assessed and analyzed further down the line. Where is the public good in exposing and thus discouraging frank assessments by our diplomats?
Let’s not be naïve here Brian, diplomats-from whatever country- are always involved in information gathering. It is also called spying.
The corrupt, degenerate Saudi ruling family has always been hostile to Iran. They are fools and short sighted. Iran will be in the region long after the US has vacated. China/ India will be the new masters of the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean. China/India has neither emotional, existential sentimentally for Israel nor any body else in Middle East. It will be simply about oil, economics and the China/India move to the global stage.
The emotional drama by Peter King and others is really stupid.
Oh Stop with the Terrorism word!! You only use that word to free yourself from any legal action and responsibility.
It sounds like a lot of State Department spin to me. The major media focus on what the diplomatic cables say about opinion of Arab states toward Iran diverts attention from U.S. double-dealing in the Mid East and elsewhere. And also provides a convenient political "cover" for Israel to launch an attack on Iran.
Can't we assume if Wikileaks got these docs that many foreign gov'ts were able to get at least some of them as well?
where are all the leaks showing the previous adm had known there were no WMDs in iraq, or that it would enrich war profiteers, etc.?
Perhaps they don't exist?
Where there's no smoke, there's no fire.
As far as I'm concerned, Wikileaks latest release is just more fodder for tabloids and sensationalist media. Such releases only result in louder, more confrontational dialogue, not calmer, more rational discourse.
I don't think westerners, and Americans in particular, understand the seriousness of the Sunni-Shia schism in Muslim history, which overshadows even their problem with Israel's existence. The Sunni-Shia split is much older and parhaps more serious than the schism between the Catholics and the Protestants a few centuries back. Underreported and wholly underestimated is the importance of the control of Mecca in the Muslim world. It's graver than Protestants taking control of the Vatican. And far more important to Muslim minds even than retaking Jerusalem. Those who ignore the importance of this schism don't understand the first thing about the Middle East.
Here we go again. Let's blame Bush instead of focusing on current problems. It doesn't matter who is in power, these things will happen and the best that can be done is prevention.
Any cables released that echo the growing foreign assessment of Obama as a weak and ineffectual President......and leading the U.S. to a weakened and less respected place in the world?
Doubt that the lefties at Wiki would embarrass Barack publicly.
SP or BL -- have you ever seen a State Dept. cable? They are often not "secret" -- and might be instructive, as you are discussing -- I assumed reporters sometimes viewed these on background -- as part of their jobs. Comment?
Bush's MMS (interior dept.'s revenue watchdog) knew how to have sex and get wasted with their foes without gossiping about it on the internet --isn't that the State Dept's actual job description?
Perhaps we should just switch em!
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