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Judging Cathie Black

Tuesday, November 16, 2010

Javier Hernandez, reporter for the New York Times, discusses Cathie Black's appointment as schools chancellor and how Mayor Bloomberg will frame the request for a waiver from the state education commissioner on her behalf.

Guests:

Javier C. Hernandez

Comments [26]

Adele

I feel that the mayor just considered a job to a friend that he wanted to bring into his own ideology without giving any thought to the educational needs of the students in the New York City School System. It is imperative that one to lead this system to with eductional and business intelligence and training. The mayor did not advertise this position or seek out the best qualified. It is just giving a friend a job without considering what is really needed. Bloomberg just demonstrated his lack of caring and knowledge in the field of education. He further demonstrates that he should not have control of the system because he has no professional educational training either. Education is not like corporate america where what goes in should go out. Children are not widgets or magazines. Children are humans how need an educational leader who understands the needs of children from all walks of life. Children are not data they are real people who need a chancellor who understands their needs in the 21st century today. The citizens of New York City now see that Bloomberg is just an egomaniac more concerned with control and power than the needs of our educational system.

Nov. 23 2010 11:34 PM
geTaylor from Bklyn., NY

P.S.:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/nyregion/20term.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Lest you consider perceptions of the mayor's money's reach fantasies of right wing rags such as the Post and the Voice

Nov. 16 2010 11:56 AM
geTaylor from Bklyn., NY

Mr. Lerher: [and citizen-toadies of nyc]

As I said during my call-in, the honest citizens of this city are still wiping the mayor's spit off of their face from the bidding war over the term limits issue in 2008 - the citizenry bid their votes; the mayor promised political cover (why else would bloomberg vouch [http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/item_eWlHrrEbjC6CYslILxy9sI]
for embezzler Quinn [http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-04-22/news/the-half-billion-dollar-secret/2/ ] ,
future jobs
[how's that taxi &limosine thing working for you Mr. Yassky?], and as always lots and lots of money
[http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2008/10/post_reveals_te.php]

Mr. Lerher chose to mis-cast that opinion as opposition to the educational policies of the bloomberg/klein regime.
[Well, I have begun to have my suspicions about how much the bloomberg empire contributes to this radio station; but maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure wnyc would fully disclose any contribution that might even appear to sully their storied integrity.]

When bloomberg finishes his purchases of this city's soul, I believe he plans to move on to the national scene to see what vanity playgrounds he can buy for his friends, for his family, and for himself. From what I've heard on today's broadcast, he'll find willing sellers [and sell-outs]

Nov. 16 2010 11:42 AM

Mike from Tribeca
i didn't vote for him either
and i didn't mean to suggest one could not disagree with our leaders.
but he's the boss the people voted for him to be such, lets see what he has up his sleeve.

Nov. 16 2010 11:21 AM
Mike from Tribeca

hjs11211 -- I didn't vote for this guy. And disagreeing with our leaders is the essence of democracy.

Nov. 16 2010 11:15 AM

mike
well should we take a poll of the seven million opinions everyday on the issues? or maybe we could have faith in the men and women we elect?
i wonder which would work better?

Nov. 16 2010 11:08 AM
ml from inwood

You can see how poorly it's worked out to have a person with no educational background or experience. Why would we want an even less qualified version of Klein?

Nov. 16 2010 10:52 AM
Barbara

There appears to be no barrier to entry for celebrities in our culture. Arnold Schwarzenneger can govern a major state, Ronald Reagan can lead the biggest nation.
While Cathie Black could indeed end up doing a good job, it's hard not be be cynical about this appointment as it seems to reflect the infatuation with media--and exaltation of characters in the media world.

Nov. 16 2010 10:52 AM
Barbara from Nyack, NY

Cathie Black may do a competent job as NYC's School's Chancellor, but my bigger concern, as an attorney and as Director of Diversity at Pace Law School, is the apparent lack of any genuine search process. Mayor Bloomberg, by selecting Cathie Black, has excluded the broader talent pool involving not just educators, but people of color and others from underrepresented groups who might equally, if not better, represent the best interests of New York City school children. Without a full search, those who have traditionally been excluded from positions of power, continue to be excluded.

Nov. 16 2010 10:51 AM
Mike from Tribeca

hjs11211 -- "the people vote for bloomberg. let him do his job"?

This is a metropolis of over seven million opinions, not 17th century France or Franco's Spain.

Nov. 16 2010 10:50 AM
becky from nyc

What about a tag team? Assuming she has accrued enough savings at this point in her career, would she be willing to share the position with a reputable educator & both split the salary? As an active parent in the public school system, I'll support her if she's willing to listen & learn; but she shouldn't be entitled to the top pay from our taxes while she's training.

Nov. 16 2010 10:49 AM
michael from Brooklyn

I think Bloomberg sees that the fiscal crisis is about to overwhelm the school system. the choice of Cathy Black means his biggest concern is not education, but management. How does the school system survive the cuts that are about to descend upon it. This is an emergency appointment.

Nov. 16 2010 10:47 AM
Ken from Little Neck

I think most of the things that have been mentioned feed into the anti-Black sentiment, but the most compelling argument to me (and this is true of Klein as well) is very simple: education is not a business! Students cannot be viewed as customers or even worse, products. Teachers are not there to give students what they want, they are there to help these students become productive members of society.

Nov. 16 2010 10:47 AM
nyorker from nyc

Rudy Crew, the last chancellor during Guliani's administration, was an educator, as was the chancellor before him. They were independent from the mayor. It is debatable whether the business manager is better than the educator. I don't think so. It's just another example of Bloomberg and his business team who have not served New Yorkers well.

Nov. 16 2010 10:46 AM
Mike from Manhattan

Cathleen Black is the Harriet Miers of Chancellor nominees. While she may be a brilliant leader, she has no business being school chancellor. Just like Bush appointed his friend, Bloomberg is appointing his friend and shoving it in our face,

Nov. 16 2010 10:43 AM

caller,
forget term limits the people vote him in for a 3rd term.

Nov. 16 2010 10:42 AM
jmurphy

Where are the other candidates for this job? Shouldn't the question be "how does she stack up against the other applicants"?
Klein's results are too mixed to just take the first person to be considered.

Nov. 16 2010 10:42 AM
ArtyQueens from Forest Hills

Either there should be requirements for the positroin or they are not needed. A waiver should be an unusual event, not the standard procedure. If the commissioner wants to approve her, he should first get all requitrements removed

Nov. 16 2010 10:40 AM
adrian forman from Hastings-on-Hudson (Westchester)

What about Michelle Rhee? Klein recommended her highly for the job to run the DC school system. She was controversial, but she made amazing, powerful choices. She just resigned...maybe she is looking for a new job? At least she has the right experience and the backing (at least in the past) of Klein.

Nov. 16 2010 10:40 AM
petrov from Queens

Our public school system is not in good shape; We are not competitive with other nations; Klein reforms were not successful;
and now Cathy Black. Do we want our schools to be like USA today or Good Housekeeping? How did we get to the point that Bloomberg has absolute power in running the school system?

Nov. 16 2010 10:40 AM
Mike from Tribeca

The students and their parents deserve better than two chancellors in a row getting waivers. Why is it so difficult for the city which I consider the best and brightest in the nation to find someone with a solid education background for the job? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

Nov. 16 2010 10:39 AM
Jennifer

Some people feel "strongly" because they are so angry over the changes that Joel Klein made. In an attempt to improve poor performing school districts, he sacrificed better performing ones. Cathie Black is bearing the brunt of anti-Klein anger.

It's also the case that people are suspicious of education reformers who attended private schools or sent their children to private schools. How would those schools survive if the public schools were doing the job perfectly well?

Nov. 16 2010 10:39 AM
Eric K from Brooklyn

In principle, the idea of someone with a background unfamiliar to a particular executive position should be considered as equally as the idea of someone with a long, dedicated history to the profession.

There are some days where I think the best schools chancellor would be a certain New Yorker who is a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs...

Nov. 16 2010 10:39 AM

the people vote for bloomberg. let him do his job

Nov. 16 2010 10:38 AM
Brett Warwick from Williamsburg

How do I apply for a waiver to be a public school teacher without a masters in education?

Nov. 16 2010 10:38 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Could it be that an education background is not the best qualification for running an organization as large as the NYC School System?

Nov. 16 2010 10:36 AM

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