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Sunday, March 15, 2009
  • Connie Converse
    Connie Converse

    Connie Converse Walking In the Dark

    During the 1950s Connie Converse lived in New York City writing and singing thoughtful, emotional, smart, witty, personal songs. She accompanied herself on guitar, a "singer/songwriter" before that term or style existed. Connie sang her songs at gatherings of friends, and once on television. The music industry of her day couldn't pigeonhole her, and didn't welcome her. Discouraged, Connie left New York in 1960, and in 1974 she wrote a series of farewell letters to her friends and family, packed up her Volkswagen Bug and disappeared. She has not been heard from since.

    Connie Converse Walking In the Dark, a special edition of WNYC's Spinning On Air with David Garland, airs many of Connie's songs for the first time, and tells her story with interviews, commentary, and readings from her letters, journals, and poetry. Joining host David Garland are Oscar-winning animator Gene Deitch, who knew and recorded Connie in New York, and the voices of Connie's brother, Philip Converse, and actress Amber Benson, who reads Connie's writings.

    Slideshow: Connie Converse

    Related Links:
    David Garland's blog entry on Connie Converse
    Connie Converse
    Lauderette Recordings
    order How Sad, How Lovely on Insound
    Connie’s story in the San Francisco Chronicle
    Connie Converse on MySpace
    Gene Deitch

Gene Deitch

Background: The Deitch Connection

One of Connie's friends in New York was Gene Deitch, cartoonist, creator of Tom Terrific, and director of the Oscar-winning 1961 animated short "Munro," written by Jules Feiffer. Deitch is a music-lover who back in the '50s used a newfangled tape recorder to record jazz, folk, and blues (including John Lee Hooker). He recorded Connie Converse at an informal gathering, and was very impressed. Connie herself continued to record her songs for what she called her Song of the Month Club, the only members of which were Connie's younger brother Philip Converse and his wife Jean. Gene Deitch, who has lived in Prague, The Czech Republic, since 1959, has continued to enjoy Connie's music, and along with Philip Converse, has hoped to find a way to share Connie's music with the world.

In January, 2004, Gene and his son Kim Deitch—one of the greats of underground comics—were guests on David Garland's WNYC radio show Spinning On Air. Gene sent in advance a CDR of some of the music he wanted to present on the show, and that included one Connie Converse song. Garland, who has sought and championed unusual songwriters for decades, recognized that Connie Converse's song "One By One" was extraordinary, and he and Gene presented it enthusiastically on the air. Dan Dzula and David Herman, two young men who were listening that day, have also become passionate about Connie's music, and have now coordinated the first commercial album of Connie's songs, "How Sad, How Lovely," on Lauderette Recordings, released March 10, 2009.

Spinning on Air: Gene and Kim Deitch (January 9, 2004)

Comments

  • [1] gina ballinger from Graz, Austria March 15, 2009 - 09:22AM

    thank you so much for this moving hour with connie converse. shes of the high art that i've studied as an autodictact all these years in austria through such people as whitney chadwick.giving her her voice spinning on air people is very exciting. my respect.


  • [2] Gene Deitch from Prague March 15, 2009 - 03:42PM

    The Connie Converse excitement mounts! I want to tell you how beautifully presented and well edited your show was. You covered all the main points of Connie's story, and presented a well-selected number of her songs. There were even revelations for me! Philip Converse answered what was the greatest mystery to me: how come Connie was never found? His answer was simpler than I thought; Phil decided not to try; he respected her wish not to be found. Her genius was surely headed for oblivion. I feel incredibly gratified that through a series of chance encounters, and your allowing me to play my recording of Connie on your show, that her songs will at last have a new life!


  • [3] Raina Elsner from nyc March 15, 2009 - 07:43PM

    Thank you for introducing me to this amazing, new (for me) musician!


  • [4] Ann from Upper West Side/NYC March 15, 2009 - 07:47PM

    I was driving home from Long Island listening to Connie Converse's songs. They are so moving and beautiful. I didn't want to get out of the car when I got home. A wonderful musical experience.


  • [5] John from Bklyn March 15, 2009 - 07:52PM

    Thank you for putting this program together. The music is beautiful and the story is devastating.

    In a different era, Connie would have been able to release her recordings on an "indie" label.

    It's a small victory that her music will finally be heard by a wider audience.


  • [6] Jonathan from Brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 07:55PM

    Thank you for introducing this remarkable artist to me.


  • [7] Madeleine from East Village, NYC March 15, 2009 - 08:03PM

    Thank you so much for this terrific radio-documentary and for introducing us to Connie's music. It's odd for me to happen to hear of all this for the first time today, after having spent the afternoon re-reading the poetry of Weldon Kees — one of my favorites — who disappeared in 1955 after having struggled with his own darknesses. The honesty and singularity and melodic beauty of Connie's music is really something I am grateful to have come across. I hope she found peace somewhere.


  • [8] david from brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 08:03PM

    an incredible show, thank you so much--haunting and lovely. how wonderful to have access to her voice.


  • [9] lois burke from Manhattan March 15, 2009 - 08:04PM

    I was very moved by this show. Connie's "farewell letter" touched me and brought to mind my own friends who have said "let me go"


  • [10] Kenny Woods from Summit, NJ March 15, 2009 - 08:05PM

    I just heard​ The Witch​ and the Wizar​d on NPR think​ing - is this some unear​thed Joni Mitch​ell song?​ But the voice​ was older​ and evoca​tive of the commo​n depre​ssion​ of human​kind.​ Astou​nding​ to turn the pages​ of her sorro​w.​

    Ditto Madeleine...Hope she found peace as well...


  • [11] Michelle from New York March 15, 2009 - 08:12PM

    Beautiful and really moving. Thanks for a great piece.


  • [12] Michelle from New York March 15, 2009 - 08:13PM

    Beautiful and really moving. Thanks for putting together a great piece.


  • [13] Julia from New Jersey March 15, 2009 - 08:18PM

    Thank you, thank you, David Garland and your team for producing this program. Your respectful and compassionate portrayal introduced me to a woman whose knowledge of the world and production of music went beyond her considerable erudition into an alchemy of artistry, unflinching self-reflection and deep sincerity. I'm off to find her CD.


  • [14] Joan from Manhattan March 15, 2009 - 08:26PM

    Really wonderful program. Amazing that she has been so unknown -- thank you so much for the opportunity to share her music. My husband and I are longtime folk/singer-songwriter followers and are so surprised to learn of her. We hope that your program will spread the word -- though, of course, too late.


  • [15] Ben from Brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 08:45PM

    One of the best hours of radio I've ever had the pleasure of hearing!

    Immense gratitude for introducing us to Connie's singular voice and brilliant mind. So much about her and her captivating story actually justifies that old cliché: she was truly "ahead of her time."

    I was driving back to Brooklyn from Pennsylvania and the show came on as we were nearing the Holland Tunnel. I was so worried that we'd miss a portion, but somehow the signal remained steady all the way under the Hudson. What wonderful luck!

    Thank you so much!


  • [16] Marian from New Jersey March 15, 2009 - 09:05PM

    Just amazing. I tuned in about five minutes into the program, and at first I thought: "This is a parody concocted by David Garland and Sara Fishko" (Connie's voice sounds a bit like Sara's to me). When I realized Connie was indeed real, I was riveted. Puts me in mind of how WNYC's Tim Page unearthed the brilliance of writer Dawn Powell some years back, Powell being another underappreciated, ahead-of-her-time woman whose artistry has since enriched many lives. Thank you!


  • [17] Linda Fillat from Montague, NJ March 15, 2009 - 09:06PM

    I was fortunate to be traveling a very long distance to get home, giving me the chance to listen to your complete program about Connie Converse and reflect on her music and life. She was indeed a neglected talent who should have been cherished, much like Eva Cassidy. What is the dichotomy between music companies and intelligent women?


  • [18] Morgan from Queens March 15, 2009 - 09:12PM

    excellent show


  • [19] RJ from brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 09:15PM

    Lovely. If she chose to continue living, I hope it was for long enough to know that her music was finally heard.


  • [20] anna from brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 09:28PM

    Connie gave us a unique opportunity to glimpse into the frustrated mind of a young independent woman of the 1950's. She was an example of humanity as continuum regardless of time or decade. People were the same then as now in many ways. She is important as an historical figure because of the perspective she gave us about life then as compared to it is now - not as different as is sometimes perceived. Thank you for this inspiring show!


  • [21] Jane from Georgia March 15, 2009 - 09:38PM

    What an interesting show! A remarkable singer/songwriter. Too bad life didn't go easier for her. Thanks for bringing her to life.


  • [22] Jo-Jo from Brooklyn March 15, 2009 - 10:16PM

    Thank you so much for a wonderful show this evening. Hearing Connie Converse's songs sent chills up my spine. A lovely and unique talent she was.


  • [23] Guy Klucevsek from Staten Island, NY March 15, 2009 - 10:17PM

    Beautiful program, David.

    Thanks for introducing us to the singer-songwriter, Connie Converse, an intriguing and wonderful artist.

    Enjoyed your thoughtful and heart-felt commentary, it is obvious how much she moves you, and, through you, we are moved as well.

    You showed what radio can be at it's best.


  • [24] Sam Leopold from In between two tall mountains March 15, 2009 - 10:59PM

    How sad, how lovely. Thanks. Great program.


  • [25] Barrett from Brooklyn, NY March 16, 2009 - 12:28AM

    Amazing...I was working at someone else's home (who also happen to be WNYC listeners). Your program is almost always ear- and mind-expanding for me, but this time it really took me for a journey. Converse was someone of talent and insight, creating in a time when that second quality wasn't of high value, and in fact might have been more than a little threatening, particularly from a woman.

    Thank you yet again for taking me (and others) places we'd never get to otherwise.

    - Barrett


  • [26] Justine Cullinan from Jamaica, Queens March 16, 2009 - 01:13AM

    I was struck by both Connie Converse's lucidity and her sadness and how she transcended her own depression to make art. Thanks for finding what was nearly lost ... and in the cosmic web may Connie Converse know how many souls she touched tonight ... and how edifying it was to know how many people loved her during her post New York life ...


  • [27] Gene Deitch from Prague March 16, 2009 - 11:37AM

    David! I'm overwhelmed - especially when I think back to my 2004 appearance on your show with my son Kim. I had planned a program of my favorite jazz records... but thinking of my commitment to keep trying and trying to get Connie's music heard... I wondered, "Can I sneak in at least one Connie Converse song?" Reading the above comments fills my heart with joy. I made the right decision! These reactions are all I dared to dream of!

    Do all these enthusiastic writers realize that a Volume 1

    Connie Converse CD is now available??? I hope so!


  • [28] Luke Higgins from South Orange, NJ March 16, 2009 - 02:36PM

    David, What an incredibly touching program. Such a fascinating mind and soul - and so tragic she didn't find an audience in her time. We're so incredibly lucky to have SPINNING ON AIR.


  • [29] Keith Troester from Kew Gardens, NY March 16, 2009 - 03:51PM

    This was an incredible Spinning On Air episode, and it was an excellent accompaniment to my creation of a music video for John Cage. After several attempts, I finally came upon an idea that I liked, perhaps partially because of her music and her story. I may very well have to purchase the CD.

    Thank you,

    Keith


  • [30] Erik M. from New York March 17, 2009 - 01:51AM

    Radio at its best - thank you

    The album is available for download on amazon.com


  • [31] GG from NYC March 17, 2009 - 03:54PM

    This music and Connie's story just stopped me in my tracks and broke my heart. Sad, but with such resilience and wit. Especially loved the images of "That Squirrel Thing." I can well understand how Deitch, the great animator and hipster cartoonist, was drawn to her.

    Thanks,

    GG


  • [32] Francisco Figueroa from Bayamón, Puerto Rico March 19, 2009 - 12:51PM

    Thank you so much for preparing this program about the life and songs of Connie Converse. I am a musician myself. I play the viola in Puerto Rico Symphony and also teach in the public music school system, but I did not know about this wonderful musician and human being. I already put out some messages sharing this broadcast, which I find really touching and emotional.


  • [33] Bryce from Brooklyn March 19, 2009 - 06:48PM

    A coworker told me about this and I listened to the podcast while commuting on the subway yesterday. I have been moved by this story, in much the same way a great book or film stirs the soul. Thanks for keeping wonderful radio alive!!


  • [34] Chuck from Pittsburgh March 19, 2009 - 08:33PM

    I was floored by your show on Connie Converse. I rarely download shows/music, but I love that show so much, I have re-listened to it repeatedly. What a gem she was. Thankyou Connie Converse!


  • [35] ILKER March 23, 2009 - 08:58AM

    She is truly amazing.


  • [36] Fred Jacobs from merrick, LI, NY March 27, 2009 - 11:14PM

    I was just preparing "In Just-" for a spring-themed high school class, when I heard your recording of Connie Converse--a perfect setting of the poem. I'd never heard of her, of course, & assumed this was a recent kitchen-recording. Instead, an amazing story, a story with a smile and a tear. I've been listening to her all night now, including your show of a couple of weeks ago. I am, though, a little disappointed that the Cummings setting is not available: I'd love to play it for my class.


  • [37] Ron from Poplar Bluff, Mo. April 24, 2009 - 04:58PM

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    How badly do I want you to still be alive

    To hear your songs played on the radio

    To know that people love the words

    To know that they get the innuendo

    Or is your secret clever and forever

    Are you clever and forever

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    So badly that I give up my life today

    So that yours may live

    So that the world is not cheated out of your retribution

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    Very badly today indeed

    HOW BADLY

    By: Ron Bulla


  • [38] Ron Bulla from Poplar Bluff, Mo. April 24, 2009 - 04:59PM

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    How badly do I want you to still be alive

    To hear your songs played on the radio

    To know that people love the words

    To know that they get the innuendo

    Or is your secret clever and forever

    Are you clever and forever

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    So badly that I give up my life today

    So that yours may live

    So that the world is not cheated out of your retribution

    How badly do I want it for you, Connie Converse

    Very badly today indeed

    HOW BADLY

    By: Ron Bulla


  • [39] J.K. Frazier from Temple, Texas April 25, 2009 - 12:32AM

    When you say she has never been heard from again, does that mean she disappeared and no one knows if she is living or dead.


  • [40] andres from La Paz, Bolivia April 25, 2009 - 10:59AM

    Beautiful story and songs, I'll think about them for a long long time. Thanks Mr. Garland, thanks Connie Converse, wherever you are.


  • [41] Patti Skondovitch from Fairbanks, Alaska April 25, 2009 - 03:47PM

    What a wonderful experience to be introduced to her music. Any and all music of her's I would be so very happy to get my hands on. Her song: "One by One", is out of this world.


  • [42] Patti Skondovitch from Fairbanks, Alaska April 25, 2009 - 03:52PM

    Thank you so very much for the introduction to Connie Converse. Her song, 'One By One' is absolutely awesome. I shall do anything to get hold of her music.


  • [43] Celeste from Lafayette, LA April 25, 2009 - 10:43PM

    I came upon this segment quite by chance on wnyc.org. Never heard of this artist before. What a haunting, yet tender story. The fact that she disappeared illuminates the intensely personal depth of grief and longing of her songs and what they meant to her. We now have a glimpse. Thank you for continuing in your lovely story and music Connie's own.


  • [44] TjB from New York July 09, 2009 - 11:52PM

    Thanks, what a great show--a really great song writer. Wonderfully poignant. And the mystery of her and her disappearance. Crazy stuff. I hope she some how knew/knows what a talent she is. I want to hear more.


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