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Soundcheck Smackdown: Madonna: Diva or Done?

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Like Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston, Madonna will spend 2008 attempting to reclaim the diva crown she once held. Her new album out today, "Hard Candy," is either the Material Girl's return to dance-pop form, or an aging star's sad trip down memory lane. (Either way, collaborators Justin Timberlake, Timbaland and the Neptunes are along for the ride.) We'll debate Madonna's relevance with Los Angeles Times chief pop music critic Ann Powers and Greg Kot, Chicago Tribune pop music critic and co-host of the radio program "Sound Opinions."

Tell us: What do you think of Madonna? Is she a diva ... or done?

Our blog: Find out what John Schaefer thinks of Madonna.

Guests:

Greg Kot and Ann Powers

Comments [30]

Richard from Crooklyn

It bothers me that WNYC is wasting valuable air time talking about music with not emotional or intellectual core. It's vapid crap. I'm sure they think it will boost ratings but they're just going to lose their core audience. I turn to public radio because it's a respite from all of the commercial drivel that the mainstream media pumps out at us constantly.

Apr. 29 2008 05:14 PM
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hjs from 11211

in 100 years, 500 years, people will still speak of Madonna. a Goddess never dies

Apr. 29 2008 03:35 PM
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Herb from Brooklyn, NY

It's just not very original is it? Not the name, not the sound, nothing about it.

Seems like nothing more than a half hearted vanity project.

Apr. 29 2008 02:38 PM
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carlos from Manhattan

From the excerpt that you just played I'm not too thrilled. Timberlake isn't much of a producer!

Apr. 29 2008 02:37 PM
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Joe from Lower Manhattan

this conversationsuxtalkabout something else!

Apr. 29 2008 02:37 PM
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anthony clune from Brooklyn

Isn't LIVE NATION part of clear channel? the weird right wing conglomo-corp that is ruining authenticity in NYC?

Apr. 29 2008 02:37 PM
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chestinee from midtown

Hey - what about Joni or Aretha - c'mon! Madonna? spectacle, that is it. Is it music?

Apr. 29 2008 02:37 PM
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Jennifer H from NYC

Smack down seems a little sensational and cheap - I love new sounds though!

Apr. 29 2008 02:37 PM
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veronica from manhattan

Millions buy Coke... but it tastes nasty and is bad for you. Marketing gets you everywhere.

Apr. 29 2008 02:33 PM
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john from Brooklyn

Don't you find it odd that mostly MEN are talking about Madonna...makes you wonder...

Apr. 29 2008 02:33 PM
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craig from brooklyn

I think that people are taking this way too seriously. Is Madonna a great singer? No. Is she a great dancer? No. Madonna does know how to put her strengths forward and is an amazing performer, all around. If you start picking her apart, then it all falls apart. Let's remember that the disc is called Hard Candy. Candy may not be good for you or nutritious, but sometimes you just need some. Sometimes I just need some Madonna. She definitely is relevant, regardless of whether the new disc is great or just fun.

Apr. 29 2008 02:31 PM
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Justin from Brooklyn

i think we gotta look at who she's making this album for, not anyone on this show thats for sure.
She's making this album for the teens and she's gonna sell millions, probably will out sell ALL of her young competition... she's still a diva.

Apr. 29 2008 02:30 PM
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Jen Blauvelt from New York, NY

I haven't bought a Madonna record in years, but it seems like each new release sends me back to the old stuff. So, that's good for her, right?

Apr. 29 2008 02:29 PM
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chestinee from midtown

I never liked her or found her relevant. What did Joni Mitchell say about buying talent?

Apr. 29 2008 02:29 PM
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jim from NJ

Kids are listening. My 5th grade daughter asked me to look up the words of 4 minutes yesterday. All her friends are talking about it!

Apr. 29 2008 02:28 PM
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Caroline from NYC

Madonna is great. And if 'pop' music is relevant then she is relevant. Confessions on Dance Floor is what, 2 years old, and that was great, classic Madonna. Now that she is going to be 50 she's going to be irrelevant? Is this agism? So Hard Candy isn't as good. American Life sucked - maybe this is her pattern. Why are we tearing her apart?

Apr. 29 2008 02:27 PM
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Heidi from Williamsburg

I can't help it, I love her. Also, the new album isn't anything original but I love it.

Have to love a woman who has two kids and stil is as ambitious as ever.

Apr. 29 2008 02:27 PM
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jknyc from manhattan

Why don't we talk about how old and irrelevant and unappealing Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan are, let alone the Rolling Stones?! Because she's a woman who dares to keep assaying her relevance to the many fans who love her and are excited for each of her new albums. I am excited for this one and the next one and all of her albums as they come.

Apr. 29 2008 02:24 PM
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ray from new york

Madonna is like an aging porn star!

she had her time.

Apr. 29 2008 02:24 PM
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eligit from astoria

"like a virgin" was catchy and had personality.....that single you just played was simply lifeless crap.

next topic.

Apr. 29 2008 02:21 PM
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John from Bklyn

Please get rid of this segment. It's bringing the show down. There are enough outlets for this junk. Listeners look to Soundcheck for more.

Apr. 29 2008 02:21 PM
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marcela from NYC

As Bob said, who cares? She's definitely a "hasbeen" at this point.

Apr. 29 2008 02:16 PM
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Nancy from Brooklyn

y'all are whack.
madonna's still the bomb.
greg is making no sense. madonna's no master musician but she is a diva performer/artist.

Apr. 29 2008 02:16 PM
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Chris from New York, NY

William Orbit saved Madonna once. Now she's trying again by jumping on another bandwagon.

And please don't compare that song to Losing My Religion.

Apr. 29 2008 02:15 PM
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Mike

What is this crap? She-and all her friends on this record-should just go into retirement and count their money.

Apr. 29 2008 02:15 PM
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veronica from manhattan

Why are we still discussing Madonna?

Her greatest talent, aside from surrounding herself with talented people to make up for her own complete lack of musical talent, was self marketing.

I'll go see Madonna when she's a lounge act at the Algonquin.

Apr. 29 2008 02:14 PM
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Anne from Midtown Manhattan

How much of this new album is Madonna's own creativity and how much is Madonna just putting her image and voice on a packaged and produced product?

Apr. 29 2008 02:14 PM
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bob from huntington

You've got to be kidding. Does anyone really care? (What time does the next segment begin?)

Apr. 29 2008 02:11 PM
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Will from Oakland

She's pretty much "Arby's" by now.

Apr. 29 2008 02:09 PM
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wanda

i really do not like "SOUNDCHECK SMACKDOWN"

Apr. 29 2008 01:40 PM
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