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Fatherhood

Friday, November 21, 2008

In this segment, Ari Daniel Shapiro introduces us to a young woman and her years-long search for the man whose donated sperm was used in her conception. Kathleen LaBounty has thought long and hard about what fatherhood means, about the psychology of genetic relationships, and about the complicated emotions tied up in family, responsibility, and identity. Her persistence and determination brought her into strangely intimate contact with complete strangers, who had some surprising and unexpected reactions to her sudden appearance in their lives.

An essay written by Kathleen
The Donor Sibling Registry


Comments

  • [1] Mirjam Kirkham from Minneapolis November 18, 2008 - 04:04PM

    I missed the end of the story. Did she find him? Can't wait to hear it online.


  • [2] Ron from Bronx November 21, 2008 - 04:32PM

    Just heard the segment... Very interesting but also sad (speaking as a father who has kids through egg donation). There was a really good article recently at The New Atlantis about the "Donor Generation" that addresses these issues: http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/donated-generation. It seems to suggest that the best way to avoid the kind of obsessive behavior described in this radiolab segment is to opt for open or known sperm and egg donations. This will allow the child to one day meet the donor, a meeting that is likely to dispels the mystery and avoid the development of an obsession about the the child's biological origin. Also see this YouTube clip about known egg donations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCwqfEa5dkI.


  • [3] Kathleen from Texas November 21, 2008 - 06:01PM

    Ron,

    Many other countries (England, the Netherlands,

    Sweden, Norway, Finland, Switzerland,

    Austria, New Zealand, and the states of Victoria, New South Wales, and Western

    Australia) only allow egg/sperm donors who will release their identity to the produced 'children' once they reach adulthood. In the U.S., however, anonymous donations are still frequently practiced.

    I don't view my search as an obsession, as it gradually evolved. When I began looking for my sperm donor in the yearbooks, I really believed that I would identify him in no more than five hours. Although that obviously did not occur, I decided to continue looking anyway. I approached my search the way that I approach life in general: living with no regrets.

    In addition, sperm donors in the early 1980s had to consent to anonymity. In other words, these men were not given the opportunity to know the children that they helped to bring into the world. I wanted my sperm donor/biological father to have that chance to make his own decision.

    It's also important to note that I was conceived before recipients received information about medical history or heritage. I still have no way to access this information, despite the fact that I am diabetic.

    Finally, donor conception is a booming industry partially because many of the recipients want a child with a biological connection. But biology matters to some (or perhaps many) of us, too.

    -Kathleen


  • [4] Kathleen from Texas November 21, 2008 - 06:08PM

    Mirjam,

    I have not yet found him. However, I've made incredible friendships through this journey. My sperm donor's former classmates and their spouses now call me their "collective pseudo daughter." Even though I did not find what I was looking for, it's definitely been worth all of the effort in terms of the friendships I developed. :)

    Kathleen


  • [5] Ron from Bronx November 21, 2008 - 08:28PM

    Kathleen,

    I adore your determination and good sport. I was obviously aiming at people in the USA who now face the choice of known vs. anonymous donors, and I hope they realize that they have the power to prevent their offspring from going through what you are going through now. As the New Atlantis article shows, you are not the only one. I did feel it was sad, even if you have it under control, because somewhere along the program I felt that your real father was lost / forgotten. I even think you stopped referring to the donor as such (or even as "biological father"), and started referring to him as your father. I think that had you met the donor (or had the right to do so), you would have moved on rather quickly with your life - and it is a shame for both you and your father (real father) that you find it hard to move on until that happens.

    By the way, my kids know their egg donor, and never though to refer to her as their "biological mother". Well, maybe ours is not a typical situation: she is their aunt...


  • [6] Kathleen from Texas November 21, 2008 - 10:46PM

    Hi Ron,

    Thanks for sharing your situation. I suspect that your children will probably have far fewer questions since you used a known family member as a donor.

    You're right - I did say "father" once instead of "biological father." (Saying "biological father" repeatedly takes more effort than saying "father" when you're talking about the subject for extended periods of time. Likewise, sometimes I'll say "donor" when referring to my biological father simply because it's easier.)

    I think each of us needs freedom to define these terms for ourselves. For clarification, though, I view the man who raised me as being my dad and the man who provided sperm for my existence as being my biological father. Even if I find my biological father, he would never become a second dad to me. However, for me the word "donor" minimizes the importance of the man who contributed to half of my genetic make-up.

    Kathleen


  • [7] Bonnie from Ohio November 22, 2008 - 10:56AM

    My boyfriend put radiolab on last night, and immediately Kathleen's story was eerily familiar. My biologoical father had brown hair and blue eyes and was a medical student at the Medical College of Georgia in 1981. I also have A+ blood. Kathleen was short and had blue eyes, unlike the rest of her family--I, in contrast, tower over my family (I'm 5'10") and am the only grandchild with green eyes (everyone else has the palest of blue). I also looked through the yearbooks once, but got frusterated with the facial hair fad that obscured many of the men's faces and the fact that I couldn't tell how tall they were from the shoulder up pictures. Maybe I will go back and try again.

    Thank you Kathleen for telling your story =) I'm also glad to know that it was common in the early 80's to have such limited information.

    Thank you.


  • [8] Bonnie from Ohio November 22, 2008 - 12:34PM

    P.S.--Kathleen, just curious--what is the name of the DNA test you have been using? If I ever start researching again, it might be good to know =)


  • [9] Kathleen from Texas November 23, 2008 - 12:15PM

    Hi Bonnie,

    This is the site where I ordered non-legally binding DNA tests: www.gtldna.com/customerservice.html

    If you ever want to talk to me directly, my e-mail is KathleenRuby@aol.com.

    Kathleen


  • [10] Anne from Manhattan November 26, 2008 - 01:08PM

    Kathleen, I just read your essay and was very moved. I found especially perceptive your description of a kind of transference that happens when a would-be mother decides to use a sperm donor--how her loss in not being able to have a child is (unintentionally) passed on to the child who is created. It reminds me that we pass many things across the generations and that whether they are talked about or not they will find some way to surface in our children and children's children, something like the conservation of matter. I believe learning about one's heritage, biological and otherwise, is critical to every child being able forge his or her own identity, and most important is being guided in this process by wise and caring adults, who don't claim to have all the answers but leave the door open. Best of luck in your search, Anne


  • [11] Kathleen from Texas November 27, 2008 - 10:27PM

    Anne,

    Thank you for your kind words and wishes!

    Kathleen


  • [12] Julie from Minnesota November 29, 2008 - 12:50AM

    Kathleen,

    I was very moved by your story. I am also searching for my biological father. I was born in 1966, back in the days of live sperm transfer from one room to the next. I was forty years old before my mother finally told me. My mother and father vowed to keep the insemination a secret, but after my father passed away my mom decided to let me know. I am saddened by the level of secrecy and shame that my parents felt. It makes me wonder how many children are never told.


  • [13] Ben December 02, 2008 - 10:39PM

    What is the French sounding chill as shit music used during this segment?


  • [14] Kathleen from Texas December 03, 2008 - 09:24AM

    Julie,

    Thanks for your message. I hope your search leads you to the answers you seek! If I can help in any way, let me know.

    Kathleen


  • [15] Julie from Minnesota December 05, 2008 - 12:14PM

    Kathleen,

    Thank you for your response. I have considered some of the same methods that you have tried. I have my profile on the Donor Sibling Registry. I have thought of writing letters to all medical students (from University of Minnesota, 1966) and also thought that I could research yearbook photos with quick success. In sending the letters did you find that the positives outweighed the negatives? In other words, would you try that approach again if you had to do it all over again?

    Julie


  • [16] Emily Halderman from Portland, OR December 08, 2008 - 05:32PM

    I would also be interested to know the name of the artist whose music appears at the beginning and end of this segment. Really beautiful stuff!

    --Em


  • [17] Richard from New York December 10, 2008 - 08:05PM

    In this story two things are said that are mathematically incorrect. First, it's reported that there was a small chance that Jessica may indeed by her sister -- one percent. Considering all those two young women found in common -- the small possibility should be considered. Instead the show says something like "One percent! That means no chance." Aargh. It means instead: a small chance, but a chance.

    Second -- 250 responses out of a possible 600 -- that's not "half".

    Otherwise -- excellent and important. Thanks.


  • [18] Joe Benham from fairfax, ca December 11, 2008 - 03:54AM

    hello Kathleen,

    are you the person called "donorconceived adult" on intent.com? if so, this is joe benham (the person you were blogging with about the issue of gay marriage).

    i just wanted to say that i totally agree with the need for children to know their biological families. i wish all those involved would recognize this. the thought of throwing my sperm to the four winds frightens me. i couldn't be a donor for any price. and if i were to adopt or act as father to a donor conceived child, i would want for my child to know as much of their biological family as could safely be included in their lives. that's my view of parenting and community.

    my view also includes gays doing the same thing, but that's another issue.


  • [19] decora December 18, 2008 - 09:37PM

    GUYS. Did you have to do the 'seconds of silence' thing before we found out the DNA test? I was screaming in my mind 'SO WHATS THE RESULT'. then YOU PAUSE AGAIN. oh my GOD.

    actually that was kind of fun. good job.


  • [20] gradon from brooklyn December 26, 2008 - 01:25PM

    I found this segment compelling listening, as my wife and I are about to start the process of undergoing IUI with donor sperm. The fear of rejection from a child conceived with the help of donor genetic material sometime in the future is a real, and comon one.


  • [21] kab from Houston area Texas December 30, 2008 - 02:41PM

    Like Kathleen from Texas; we too are seeking two donors from Baylor College of Medicine.

    One child was born in 1981 and the other in 1988. Donors from that time span are invited to contact Cabri DNA testing Lab for a possible match.


  • [22] Jonathan Rimorin from San Diego December 31, 2008 - 01:57PM

    I came here looking for the name of the artist(s) who did the interstitial music as well. Jad, c'mon, hook us up!

    Kathleen, et al: I admire your bravery and civility in your daunting quests. I wish you the best of luck in your journeys.


  • [23] Brian W from Baltimore January 11, 2009 - 01:19PM

    Along with Emily and Jonathan..

    Please tell... what's the name of the artist and song for the interlude music, particularly the soft Spanish song at the 39th minute after this Fatherhood story? It was so beautiful. Thanks!


  • [24] Brian W from Baltimore January 12, 2009 - 01:36PM

    About the music, the response I heard back from RadioLab is that the track at 38:21 is probably: "Quien" by Juana Molina from the album: Segundo


  • [25] Kathleen from Texas January 18, 2009 - 10:35AM

    Julie,

    Yes, I would probably try the approach again because I met such amazing people in the process and I discovered a lot about myself. However, I also had no clue how much emotion, time (800 to 1,000 hours), or money it would involve as I began my quest. If anyone else attempts it, I'd recommend keeping some degree of emotional distance until a DNA test confirms a relationship. Otherwise the journey may become too difficult to continue. I almost quit a few times as a result of the emotional rollercoaster as well as guilt over causing pain to the men who actually desired a biological daughter, but many of the BCM grads encouraged me to continue on and I knew I had to do it to achieve a sense of peace.

    Kathleen


  • [26] Kathleen from Texas January 18, 2009 - 10:38AM

    Hi Joe,

    No, I'm not the person blogging on intent.com, although I did read the discussions you mentioned. I have a blog at: http://childofastranger.blogspot.com/

    Thanks for the support!

    Kathleen


  • [27] Kathleen from Texas January 18, 2009 - 10:58AM

    Gradon,

    What would you consider to be rejection? A situation like mine, where your future child may decide to look for his or her birth father?

    Oddly enough, I was diagosed with PCOS, the number one cause of female infertility. Therefore, I've tried to reverse the circumstances by imagining how I would feel if I used an egg donor to conceive a child and then my child felt an intense need to know the biological mother. I think children (and parents) in this situation need a lot of support.

    I wanted to tell you that the vast majority of the donor-conceived adults I have talked to view the men who raised as their one and only dad. Most of us are in no way trying to replace him or seeking a second father figure. Instead, those of us who decide to search are typically wanting to find basic information about ourselves that most people simply take for granted. Who do we look like? Where do we come from? What is my heritage and medical history? and so on.

    I feel so fortunate that my father has given me permission to search for my paternal relatives and that he realizes he is my only dad. It took an incredible amount of pressure and guilt off my shoulders. I think his support is probably the best gift from him that I could ever receive.

    Kathleen


  • [28] JulieB from georgia January 26, 2009 - 11:45AM

    As a 36 year old woman with no biological children, that has been diagnosed with ovarian failure and is considering egg donation, this segment was absolutely horrifying and devastating. It was difficult to listen to this segment without feeling deep empathy for the man that raised you. My husband, who has three children from a previous marriage, (that he raised from infancy to adolescence), was dismayed at the lack of mention of your Dad's efforts or your love for him. He was mentioned, once, early in the segment, then not again.

    After reading your comments posted here, I don't believe this was your intention but the exclusion of this vital information regarding your feelings toward the man that raised you was a blinding error of the producers. If your intention was to sway potential parents in our situation to disclose donor information to children born into your situation, it failed miserably.

    We walked away thinking that, if we were going to move forward with an egg donation, we would not be able tell the child ANYTHING.

    The last paragraph in your last post should have been included in the show. That would have not only painted you as a more likable person but it would have made the segment more in line with your intention.


  • [29] David from Austin February 11, 2009 - 09:52AM

    Kathleen,

    Are you 100% sure that your father is not your biological father? Has he taken a DNA test?

    Really interesting story. Best wishes.


  • [30] Kathleen from Texas February 13, 2009 - 10:41PM

    Hi David,

    Thanks for thinking of possibilities. My dad and I have been through DNA testing, which came back as negative. :)

    Kathleen


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