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Treasury Bond Swindle

Wednesday, April 01, 2009
Treasury Bond

Davis Logsdon is chairman of the economics department at the University of Minnesota. He is an expert in financial swindles, and he tipped off the FBI about the Treasury Department’s scam of selling worthless "Treasury bills" to unsuspecting investors.

Event: Andy Borowitz will be hosting a discussion looking at politics after the presidential election
Thursday, April 30, at 8:00 pm
92nd Street Y
1395 Lexington Ave.
More information here.


Comments

  • [1] smidely April 01, 2009 - 01:09PM

    difference betwn aig and madoff?


  • [2] George Bendemann from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:12PM

    omigod....did this gentleman just use a triple mixed metaphor. And I quote, "Sometimes you must pay the pay the piper when the skeletons come home to roost." What a hoot!

    He is still an interesting guest as he discovered the villain Madoff.

    George


  • [3] sanjay from manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:12PM

    Skeletons in the closet coming home to roost?

    Cracks in the Ocean?

    How many metaphors can this guy break??


  • [4] Terri from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:13PM

    I'm quite enjoying his mixed metaphors. 'Cracks in the ocean'? 'Skeletons in the closet coming home to roost?'

    Excellent!


  • [5] Peter from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:13PM

    Seriously, these mixed metaphors are out of control. How, exactly, does a crack form in the ocean?

    I mean, I know we're close to passover, but come on...


  • [6] superf88 April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    classic


  • [7] N/A from brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    COME ON......

    4/1?


  • [8] Catherine from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    Stop turning this interesting piece into an April Fool's prank, it is a disservice to your own credibility and to the listeners, I mean members.


  • [9] fuva from Harlem, NY April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    APRIL FOOLS!....?


  • [10] Eric from NYC April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    Where can we find an article about this online?


  • [11] Gary from UWS April 01, 2009 - 01:15PM

    This guy has mixed four metaphors already.


  • [12] Tricia from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:16PM

    OK, at first I thought this was the world's most hilarious economist, with all of the mixed metaphors... so funny! Thanks and Happy April Fool's Day!


  • [13] Paulo from Paterson, NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:16PM

    April Fools!


  • [14] hjs from 11211 April 01, 2009 - 01:16PM

    this is MUCH better than brian's prank


  • [15] John from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:17PM

    this April Fool's gag is a bit disturbing.


  • [16] Catherine from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:17PM

    Please stop turning this interesting piece into an April fool's prank. It's a disservice to your own credibility and to us listener/members.


  • [17] Peter McCauley from Philadelphia April 01, 2009 - 01:17PM

    April Fool


  • [18] Matt from UWS April 01, 2009 - 01:17PM

    Leonard -- FABULOUS APRIL FOOL'S GIFT!!!

    THANK YOU!!!

    :)


  • [19] gogls from NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:17PM

    I thought most April Fools weren't supposed to be so true.

    HAHA


  • [20] Mary from Upper West Side April 01, 2009 - 01:18PM

    this tbill thing has to be april fool's doesn't it?


  • [21] Hugh from Brookyn April 01, 2009 - 01:18PM

    Andy Borowitz -- very funny! But just a little too close to the truth, don't you think?!


  • [22] geoffrey osullivan from brooklyn ,ny April 01, 2009 - 01:18PM

    Brother Please! Give your listeners a challenge on this day, way too easy.


  • [23] BBW from Rye NY April 01, 2009 - 01:18PM

    April Fools. I am beginning to feel as though I am listening to "The War of The Worlds".


  • [24] Donna April 01, 2009 - 01:19PM

    April Fool's!!!


  • [25] N/A from brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 01:19PM

    bwahaha.

    OTB!


  • [26] Henry April 01, 2009 - 01:19PM

    April Fool's indeed! Just Google Davis Logsdon


  • [27] MichaelB from Morningside Heights April 01, 2009 - 01:19PM

    Leonard, you having trouble playing the straight man?


  • [28] Brad from Lincroft, NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:20PM

    I love Leonard's April Fools stuff but part of me wonders if this is borderline reckless given the state of the world. Don't get me wrong, I think this is funny. However, part of me can't help but draw comparisons to War of the Worlds.


  • [29] DEE from nj April 01, 2009 - 01:20PM

    Off track betting... I'd love to see how they can keep a straight face happy april fools


  • [30] Erica from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:20PM

    Fabulous! You both did a great job. I love Andy Borowitz.


  • [31] Christine Ravena from tribeca April 01, 2009 - 01:20PM

    I just had my banker sell all my treasuries!


  • [32] aaron from queens April 01, 2009 - 01:20PM

    Very funny. Well done!


  • [33] david jenkins from Monmouth Cty, NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:21PM

    Ditto

    The calender says April 1st. Though the person of interest statement might be cause for pause.


  • [34] BraveDave from West 90s April 01, 2009 - 01:21PM

    Good April Fool's bit. Loved the last bit about the president's "package".


  • [35] Edward Lewit from Long Island, NY April 01, 2009 - 01:21PM

    This whole segment sounds like a wonderful April Fools segment.

    I want a copy of the book. Does it exist?


  • [36] Count Zero from New York April 01, 2009 - 01:21PM

    Very amusing April Foll's joke.

    I just hope most your listener's recognized it as the spoof it was intended to be.


  • [37] Paulo from Paterson, NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:22PM

    Much better than Brian's indeed. Took me WAY longer to figure it out.


  • [38] George Bendemann from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:23PM

    According to the description above, the treasury department attempted to sell phony certficates. Where is this written up exactly?

    Please provide a url or else Happy April's Fools! No matter who Davis Logsdon is!!


  • [39] Janny from jersey city April 01, 2009 - 01:24PM

    once i heard skimming the cream off the pot of gold, i knew it was a prank!


  • [40] Count Zero from New York April 01, 2009 - 01:24PM

    Very amusing April Fool's joke.

    I hope your listeners recognized it as the spoof it was intended to be.


  • [41] cnh from NYC April 01, 2009 - 01:24PM

    SHAME ON YOU! When people are losing their homes and jobs, their health care, the topic is too serious for humor.

    Faith in financial markets is key to our recovery. Any part of the media that fails to understand that and to act accordingly is just as guilty as the commission addicted Wall Street Execs or the bankers and borrowers that wrote bogus mortgages or the idiots at S&P and Moody's that drank the kool-aide.

    SHAME SHAME SHAME. It's not funny!


  • [42] Lovern from work April 01, 2009 - 01:24PM

    I can't believe I fell for this. Great April Fool's prank!


  • [43] George Bendemann from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:25PM

    Borowitz is a gas!


  • [44] Joel M. Benisch from Livingston NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:25PM

    Sadly, the April Fools conversation about the US Treasury perpetrated Ponzi scheme is not really very far from the truth. Madoff used money from today's investors to pay off yesterday's investors. The US Government (our society and it's values, actually) is promising to find tomorrow's investors to pay off today's investors.

    Both will result in the same outcome. At some point, the music will stop (for reasons we can't even imagine today) and there simply won't be enough chairs in the room for everyone to sit on.


  • [45] annaf from nyc April 01, 2009 - 01:26PM

    I really believed it!!


  • [46] kbinps from park slope April 01, 2009 - 01:27PM

    A nerd's idea of humor. Borowitz is a prime example of humorists who aren't humorous. Like Brian Lehrer's little April Fools piece-lame. Stick to the punditry and news as humor is not your strong suit. That goes for those lame memebership commercials too. Like that very tired Dragnet piece.


  • [47] simpsonsmovieblew April 01, 2009 - 01:27PM

    not to diminish mr. borowitz's considerable pranking abilities, but my favorite part of this is definitely comment 16.


  • [48] Andrew Cohen from New Yrok City April 01, 2009 - 01:28PM

    Just a harmless prank? Such reckless use of mixed metaphors leaves scars that no copy of Strunk & White can erase. What about the children? PTSD kills you grammatical bastards. Have you no shame?


  • [49] judy from NJ April 01, 2009 - 01:29PM

    I didn't think this was funny at all. Clearly the listeners who have commented are not as worried as I am about ending up on the street. Sure, I figured out it was a joke, but only after my chest had already started to hurt, and my heart had begun to pound.


  • [50] Margery from NYC April 01, 2009 - 01:29PM

    In the 18th century ther was an allocation of monies to NYS to build a water system to bring clean water to NYC? A small in adequate system was built.

    The remaining money was to be used as wished. It was used to start the Bank Of New York, in 1784 by Alexander Hamilton. If he was responsible for the Treasury Bills...? Maybe it should be called the "Hamilton Scheme"


  • [51] Patty from Nutley April 01, 2009 - 01:30PM

    Regarding the T-bill ponzi scheme. I was working on a spreadsheet and listening with half an ear... you had me going for awhile... totally taken in until the recommendation to invest in the Lottery. I was beginning to hyperventilate! Brilliant but a bit risky!


  • [52] George Bendemann from Manhattan April 01, 2009 - 01:39PM

    I was the first to start to get on to this a little....(see post #2). I was, however, fooled! I think it is hilarious!! That's despite what the few cranks above have written. (Everybody knows there will always be those who condescendingly disapprove....no mattter what show you do!)

    If we don't have laughter as part of our arsenal, then we are really losing a lot.

    Keep up the great work on all aspects of the show!!!

    George


  • [53] Chris Gerbi from New Hartford, CT April 01, 2009 - 01:50PM

    With all the nasty financial stuff being revealed right now, this was not funny. Humor should ease any national paranoia, not feed into it. I am sure a lot of listeners, like me, are half-listeners, in-and-out while negotiating a busy workday. No, I did not hear all or register the 'enormity' of the metaphors. This got me off-track for a bit, for sure. Not fun! This segment was more suited to the Daily Show.


  • [54] Bessie from Queens, NY April 01, 2009 - 02:10PM

    Leonard,

    What poor judgment and lack of common sense. Where is your sensitivity for the many who are vulnerable financially?

    This is hard to forgive.


  • [55] Richard from Piermont, NY April 01, 2009 - 02:48PM

    You, Leonard Lopate and his producer/director ought to be ashamed of yourselves. if this is what my contributions are being used for, count me out. Mr. Lopate and all those responsible should be disciplined. I suggest two months off without pay.


  • [56] Peter Kuklan from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 02:51PM

    Absolutely brilliant and hilarious, although not as funny as comment #55. Thank you Leonard and Andy Borowitz!


  • [57] arkady from Brooklyn April 01, 2009 - 02:59PM

    OMG - com'n peeps... In this day and age, to find a good joke is a treasure (treasury?) indeed! Hilarious, and made me LOL on the street.


  • [58] Bob Jakuc from New Jersey April 01, 2009 - 03:37PM

    Will audio of this segment be posted? Classic. Very funny. Either some of your posters have no sense of humor or they're attempting to tack on a bad joke to a good one.


  • [59] Ava from NYC April 01, 2009 - 04:20PM

    Very good indeed, it got me really going, almost in horror started thinking of moving to another country asap!!

    But I'd like to suggest something to the educated listeners of WNYC to see Zeitgeist the Movie at zeitgeistmovie dot com and share your thoughts because unfortunately the prank today may be way too close to reality..

    And another small fact - what about the baby boomers who will be turning 60 every 16 minutes for the next 15 years or so (citing WNYC)? Who will take care of them and their retirement plans!? 401K? Markets? We? Fresh investors? I wonder..


  • [60] Marc K from NJ April 01, 2009 - 04:25PM

    how come this audio is not available for streaming like the other segments of the day's show? (I really wanna hear this again)!


  • [61] Mike T from Saratoga Spgs, NY April 01, 2009 - 05:03PM

    Really enjoyed the education financing segment a year ago on 4/1/08. Looking forward to hearing the MP3.


  • [62] fool me once from Westchester April 01, 2009 - 08:21PM

    Can we can an audio? I turned off the segment before the end.


  • [63] lol4ever from philadelphia, pa April 01, 2009 - 09:54PM

    i neeeeeeeeeeeed the mp3...


  • [64] tobyhotote from Bronx April 01, 2009 - 10:32PM

    Has the show acknowledged that it is a joke yet?


  • [65] glekapolis from brookie April 01, 2009 - 10:45PM

    LOVE the segment. I think we all went through the 7 stages of grief.

    Shock

    Denial

    Bargaining

    Guilt

    Anger

    Depression

    Acceptance and Hope

    Can you all post it online?


  • [66] matt watts from the wilds of jersey April 02, 2009 - 09:05AM

    "he tipped off the FBI about the Treasury Department’s scam of selling worthless "Treasury bills" to unsuspecting investors."

    \ This is a joke ?

    did you go to the theater last night and shout fire?

    I would think this kind of a joke would threaten your fcc certification leonard

    extreme dose'nt mean clever

    you are not orson welles and that was'nt war of the worlds

    signed ,a fan


  • [67] Tony from San Jose, CA April 02, 2009 - 10:02AM

    Where's the mp3? Please?

    The Lopate Show responds:

    The audio is now available. We apologize for the delay.


  • [68] Nancy Westrell from Portland, OR April 02, 2009 - 12:19PM

    This was wonderful! Thanks for putting it on the air. I am quite a fan of Andy Borowitz.


  • [69] brenden from CA April 02, 2009 - 12:23PM

    He is brilliant. I get his newsletter.

    borowitzreport.com


  • [70] Ron Olson from Madison wi April 02, 2009 - 12:40PM

    Gosh, Davis Logsdon must be the world's smartest man! Where did Andy meet him? In Andy's columns, David has held so many positions of importance at the University of Minnesota.


  • [71] Leslie Carlo from Sacramento April 02, 2009 - 12:51PM

    Why doesn't Andy have his own show on NPR? This is pure genius.


  • [72] CCC April 02, 2009 - 01:14PM

    Mathematical formula, "P to the ON to the ZI"??? LOL!!! LOVE Borowitz.


  • [73] Gary from Stearnsville, MI April 02, 2009 - 01:19PM

    glekapolis from brookie Re#65 -- you listed all EIGHT 21st-century stages. LOL


  • [74] eStreet4ever from Madison, WI April 02, 2009 - 01:24PM

    In case nobody commented on this before, this is an April Fools prank. It's Andy Borowitz. You can find the link on The Borowitz Report.


  • [75] Gary from Stearnsville, MI April 02, 2009 - 01:24PM

    Well done, Andy.

    WNYC, feel free to contact me about replacing any member who actually quits for lack of a working sense of humor.


  • [76] steven from vermont April 02, 2009 - 01:31PM

    c'mon people -it's only money!!


  • [77] Curt Barnes from New York City April 02, 2009 - 01:32PM

    the mangled metaphor was intentional - this is an April Fools' joke - this is the comedian Andy Borowitz impersonating an economist.


  • [78] Jhaimoke Raj April 02, 2009 - 01:33PM

    “Economist Logsdon” starts out by telling Leonard he’s sexier in person-no way! This gave it away from the start. Can you image Paul Krugman making a statement like that? And, omg Lenny, you’re the "straight" man alright-lol!


  • [79] Martha McManamy from United States April 02, 2009 - 01:36PM

    Got it: 1/3 Ponzi treasury bills, 1/3 OTB, 1/3 state lottery. I love it!


  • [80] Christine from Houston April 02, 2009 - 01:46PM

    As soon as I heard "Davis Logsden of the University of Minnesota" I knew it was Andy. I get his "Shockers" automatically by email, heard him in person, and have 2 of his books. (One is "The Republican Play Book" and it's a scream!)


  • [81] Bob from Colorado April 02, 2009 - 02:16PM

    Thanks Mr. Borowicz, excellent satire as always, but probably too true!


  • [82] Judith Shapiro from NYC April 02, 2009 - 03:18PM

    To all of those who are indignant and did not recognize this as satire: (1) you need to spend more time listening to NPR to enhance your sophistication and sense of humor, and (2) you need to lighten up.


  • [83] Carol Foyler from United States April 02, 2009 - 03:25PM

    I'm Davis Logsden's teaching assistant. Right on, Davis!!


  • [84] Frank from PA April 02, 2009 - 04:23PM

    This is brilliant--how did the moderator not break up? 800 lb. gorilla hanging over the conference. This is pure Borowitz and just great.


  • [85] Helen Moe from Brooklyn, New York April 02, 2009 - 04:29PM

    Someone should recommend Andy Borowitz for New York University's Marshall McLuhan Media Award.


  • [86] njmedic2620 April 02, 2009 - 06:06PM

    in the old english phrase the professor is a real "boar o' wits" andhe should have a web page where he can report his thoughts.


  • [87] Rich Barrell from Amherst, MA April 02, 2009 - 08:10PM

    to all those who can't enjoy a good laugh...

    may you be banished to a place where the hand of man has never set foot....


  • [88] ZBicyclist from Chicago (usually podcast listener) April 02, 2009 - 11:33PM

    Andy B was an inspired April 1 guest, and perfect for the Lopate show. Well done, Leonard and Andy!


  • [89] Don Thieme from http://gamoonbat.blogspot.com April 03, 2009 - 06:42AM

    This guy is like a grain of sand crying in the ocean. P^on^zi = pwned!


  • [90] Sean Dell from New York City April 03, 2009 - 09:09AM

    Brilliant. I was tipped off by the preamble in which Logsdon described Lopate as 'sexy in real life'. The mangled metaphors were the next clue. But I have to admit, I nearly fell for it. Well done everyone.


  • [91] Milton from Manhattan April 06, 2009 - 12:31PM

    Maybe the April Fool's joke is that it IS true

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/04/guest-post-fdics-insurance-commitments.html

    The strength of the Treasury has been that people trusted its strength. Over-extending itself now can change that.


  • [92] robert barker from fort smith, arkansas April 07, 2009 - 05:19PM

    I guess being from Arkansas I a little simple, but could someone explain to me the difference between Social Security and a Ponzu scheme?


  • [93] Tony from San Jose, CA April 08, 2009 - 11:19AM

    Robert, the difference between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme is that you are REQUIRED by law to throw your money away into SS.


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