John and Frank are brothers. John is married to Jennifer. Frank is married to Francine.
Are Jennifer and Francine Sisters-in-Law?
We thought yes. The ESL students said they are NOTsisters-in-law in other languages, in which they must be related by blood to be relatives, not just marriage.
#15 Bob, (our self maybe?) But really, We adopt (not hijack) America as a shortend United States of America the Country. We are Americans. We are also North Americans, as are Canadians and Mexicans, etc., as being part of the Continent, North America. Easy concept to grasp as Chinese are also Asian, and French are alse European.
It's just a little easier to Identify as American, instead of being United-States-of-American-North-American.
Such words are called "autoantonyms." Others are cleave and oversight (& overlook). I suspect that a web search for the term would yield at least a few more.
The idea of which preposition goes with which phrase is called a "subcategorization restriction" and is applied in lots of situations where certain words are put together for whatever reason. Bored "of" does not fit the subcategorization restriction for that phrase, but bored "with" is...
I was thrilled to hear you mention the word " prepone" today. This word was invented by my husband,Dov Brosh about 20 years ago when he wanted to move a flight date up. As a new immigrant from Israel back then, he was always very creative with the English language and felt this was a word that was sorely lacking, especially in our fast paced, get things done yesterday culture.
The distinction between Renaissance and renaissance is the part of speech as well as the meaning. Renaissance (noun) -- cap R -- is the period in European history -- The Renaissance. renaissance (adj) -- lower case r -- is a descriptive word. Also Leonardo was a Renaissance man (man of The Renaissance) -- he lived during the period in European history known by that name. Leonardo was a renaissance man -- he was multi-faceted regardless of when he lived.
Regarding the gender-unspecific pronoun, there is also a small movement in the QLGBT community to adopt "ze" in place of "he" and "she". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun
Renaissance with a capital R refers to the specific time period, lowercase just denotes a rebirth (what the original French word means) of something. It's just like Holocaust/holocaust. As for the difference in pronunciation, one is more faithful to the original French, the other is a little more Anglicized and affected.
While on the subject of banks, it's interesting that bankruptcy comes from Italian "banca" bank and "rotta" broken. One of the above writers mentions the Venitian money traders. I had heard that if the traders were acting unfairly, the doge would send someone to "break the bench."
Please comment on the recent, derisive use of this substantive form as an adjective. - used purely for pejorative sounding purposes. ('Democratic candidate' doesn't sound mocking.) - it's repeated constantly on certain talk radio.
Leonard:Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin has repeatedly used the phrase:"the pollsters and the pun-DINS"She repeatedly mis-pronounces the word as if it had an N rather than a T in it. It seems many make this mistake now,sometimes saying "pun-DINTS". Is it possible to re-establish this correct pronunciation in the media/culture, or has the word pundit been lost to the sloppy speakers like Palin, forever?
nonplussed. How can that word have 2 definitions that are exactly the opposite. Please enlighten me because I talk about this a lot and have my own theories. Thank you! Love the show.
A brief clarification regarding "Investment Bank" is in order for your listeners.
You are seeing the language changing as a result of changes in the technical definition in law of the word.
The reason that "Investment Bank" does not appear in US English is the fact that the Glass-Steagal Act wasn't passed until 1933. The Glass-Steagal act legally bifurcated the banking functions of commercial banking (what you were calling "banks") and investment banking (firms which raised capital and created securitized debt).
However, in 1999 the Grahm-Leach-Bliley act eliminated the distinction. After 1999 "banks" could own investment banks and perform investment bank operations, and "investment banks" could lend money and hold accounts which were FDIC insured.
I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the use of the indefinite article "a" in front of a word that starts with a vowel. Such as when a NYC cop says, "you need to take a uptown train at 59th street."
I have heard everyone from people on the subway to the president of the united states speak like this. Let's hear you acknowledge it exists. You dismissed it the first time I brought it up, saying you couldn't imagine anyone would pronounce it that way, it being so much harder to say.
But everyone does it. I mean, except me, because it sounds awful.
I have never understood why the United States has been able to hijack the use of calling are self America. We are in North America, sharing that with Canada, there is central america and south america. America should mean the whole continent not the small portion containing the USA
Prepone, is an often used word in India, where I was raised. Although, I don't think it is official. My boss once replied - "Prepone? really Harshad?" - when I emailed him to reschedule a meeting, this was a couple of years after I moved to New York from Mumbai.
Here in central NJ, it seems that much of the population has lost their sense of sarcasm. It has become very common for people to use quotation marks to empahsize rather than indicate sarcasm. What's up with that?
Is it futile to start a one woman crusade to fix the 'problem'?
I was always taught that clothes are "hung" but people are "hanged". I cannot count the number of times and unexpected places where I see it misused. Have I been wrong all these years?
Regarding the use of 'less' vs 'fewer': You would say 'less water' and 'fewer people', but which one would you use for units of time? 'Fewer days' sounds better than 'less days', but day is not a discrete unit, is it? (since you can have half of a day). Thanks.
A wee question, just out of curiosity. I've been listening to the Evolution 101 podcast, and the host uses the term "evidences" when speaking of the facts indicating that evolution has occurred. I was surprised by this use, but I have since seen it used elsewhere, usually in reference to evolution (or Creationism). I was surprised, because I was familiar with "evidence" as a sort of collective singular, mainly in a legal context. Do you have any idea why facts would be described with a singular "evidence" in the legal context, and the plural in scientific contexts?
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Comments [38]
Family relations...?
A question that came out of an ESL class.
John and Frank are brothers.
John is married to Jennifer.
Frank is married to Francine.
Are Jennifer and Francine Sisters-in-Law?
We thought yes. The ESL students said they are NOTsisters-in-law in other languages, in which they must be related by blood to be relatives, not just marriage.
Thanks, great show.
#15 Bob,
(our self maybe?)
But really, We adopt (not hijack) America as a shortend United States of America the Country. We are Americans. We are also North Americans, as are Canadians and Mexicans, etc., as being part of the Continent, North America. Easy concept to grasp as Chinese are also Asian, and French are alse European.
It's just a little easier to Identify as American, instead of being United-States-of-American-North-American.
re: Jason #27
This from the "Think Different" company. It's a "grammassacre"!
re: Jody #18
Such words are called "autoantonyms." Others are cleave and oversight (& overlook). I suspect that a web search for the term would yield at least a few more.
"Hotelling" ...a great corporate one.
"let's do this"
The idea of which preposition goes with which phrase is called a "subcategorization restriction" and is applied in lots of situations where certain words are put together for whatever reason. Bored "of" does not fit the subcategorization restriction for that phrase, but bored "with" is...
I was thrilled to hear you mention the word " prepone" today. This word was invented by my husband,Dov Brosh about 20 years ago when he wanted to move a flight date up. As a new immigrant from Israel back then, he was always very creative with the English language and felt this was a word that was sorely lacking, especially in our fast paced, get things done yesterday culture.
how about "gay" Leonard?
The distinction between Renaissance and renaissance is the part of speech as well as the meaning. Renaissance (noun) -- cap R -- is the period in European history -- The Renaissance. renaissance (adj) -- lower case r -- is a descriptive word. Also Leonardo was a Renaissance man (man of The Renaissance) -- he lived during the period in European history known by that name. Leonardo was a renaissance man -- he was multi-faceted regardless of when he lived.
Actually, the word hysteria comes from the Greek root "hystera" or womb. It's the same root in the word hysterectomy.
Regarding the gender-unspecific pronoun, there is also a small movement in the QLGBT community to adopt "ze" in place of "he" and "she".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun
Good luck on the "funnest" issue. I hate it... but apple just used it in their iPod promotions: http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/
"The funnest iPod ever."
No, if Ron Paul was not appointed president he was literally not-appointed - Dis-appointed.
Renaissance with a capital R refers to the specific time period, lowercase just denotes a rebirth (what the original French word means) of something. It's just like Holocaust/holocaust. As for the difference in pronunciation, one is more faithful to the original French, the other is a little more Anglicized and affected.
maybe we should change hysteria to hersteria due to it's origins.
Regarding iron, if you really want to hear an interesting pronunciation, go to Pittsburgh where it's something equivalent to "ern."
While on the subject of banks, it's interesting that bankruptcy comes from Italian "banca" bank and "rotta" broken. One of the above writers mentions the Venitian money traders. I had heard that if the traders were acting unfairly, the doge would send someone to "break the bench."
Re: the "Democrat" candidate, democrat plan, etc.
Please comment on the recent, derisive use of this substantive form as an adjective.
- used purely for pejorative sounding purposes. ('Democratic candidate' doesn't sound mocking.)
- it's repeated constantly on certain talk radio.
Leonard:Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin has repeatedly used the phrase:"the pollsters and the pun-DINS"She repeatedly mis-pronounces the word as if it had an N rather than a T in it. It seems many make this mistake now,sometimes saying "pun-DINTS". Is it possible to re-establish this correct pronunciation in the media/culture, or has the word pundit been lost to the sloppy speakers like Palin, forever?
Why do we use the word "up" in so many phrases?
"Something is made up"
"Can you come up with an answer"
Those types of idioms are very hard to teach and explain to non-English natives.
--
On a totally different note: Is it correct to say someone is standing "on line" when they're actually in line?
nonplussed. How can that word have 2 definitions that are exactly the opposite. Please enlighten me because I talk about this a lot and have my own theories. Thank you! Love the show.
A brief clarification regarding "Investment Bank" is in order for your listeners.
You are seeing the language changing as a result of changes in the technical definition in law of the word.
The reason that "Investment Bank" does not appear in US English is the fact that the Glass-Steagal Act wasn't passed until 1933. The Glass-Steagal act legally bifurcated the banking functions of commercial banking (what you were calling "banks") and investment banking (firms which raised capital and created securitized debt).
However, in 1999 the Grahm-Leach-Bliley act eliminated the distinction. After 1999 "banks" could own investment banks and perform investment bank operations, and "investment banks" could lend money and hold accounts which were FDIC insured.
I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge the use of the indefinite article "a" in front of a word that starts with a vowel. Such as when a NYC cop says, "you need to take a uptown train at 59th street."
I have heard everyone from people on the subway to the president of the united states speak like this. Let's hear you acknowledge it exists. You dismissed it the first time I brought it up, saying you couldn't imagine anyone would pronounce it that way, it being so much harder to say.
But everyone does it. I mean, except me, because it sounds awful.
I have never understood why the United States has been able to hijack the use of calling are self America. We are in North America, sharing that with Canada, there is central america and south america. America should mean the whole continent not the small portion containing the USA
Prepone, is an often used word in India, where I was raised. Although, I don't think it is official. My boss once replied - "Prepone? really Harshad?" - when I emailed him to reschedule a meeting, this was a couple of years after I moved to New York from Mumbai.
No matter how hard I try not to say it, I love the use of the word boughten. AS in
"I like Hybrid Cars, though I haven't boughten one yet."
I'm sure that sentence holds a lot of errors grammatically anyway. But I just always say boughten.
In general how much is our language shaped by capitalist/commercial motivations, beyond just the usage of trademarks?
Words in finance that give the illusion of stability and safety:
- Securities
- Bonds
- Stock
- Trusts
- "Real" estate
- "Precious" metals
Think about it. They're so subtle, yet effective.
The use of, "try AND..." rather than "try TO..." drives me crazy. Am I right to be so offended?
I heard bank came from the Italian word for bench, on which Venitian money traders and lenders sat on.
Hi there,
Here in central NJ, it seems that much of the population has lost their sense of sarcasm. It has become very common for people to use quotation marks to empahsize rather than indicate sarcasm. What's up with that?
Is it futile to start a one woman crusade to fix the 'problem'?
Linda Natanagara
I was always taught that clothes are "hung" but people are "hanged". I cannot count the number of times and unexpected places where I see it misused. Have I been wrong all these years?
Re: Connie's Q. #3. I always assumed that 'fewer' was used regarding amounts and 'less' refers to quantity.
Hello!
A question about contractions:
When someone asks us, "This is a wonderful dinner, isn't it?" why don't we respond, "It's"?
When someone asks us, "Have you eaten dinner yet?" why don't we respond, "I've"?
Would it be improper grammar to use contractions in that manner? Or just plain weird?
Thanks.
Why is IRON pronounced "eye-ern" and not "eye-ron" the way it's spelled ? ? ? ?
Regarding the use of 'less' vs 'fewer': You would say 'less water' and 'fewer people', but which one would you use for units of time? 'Fewer days' sounds better than 'less days', but day is not a discrete unit, is it? (since you can have half of a day).
Thanks.
Hello! I've been wondering: how did the word "stool" come to have such drastically different meanings? Thanks.
Hello,
A wee question, just out of curiosity. I've been listening to the Evolution 101 podcast, and the host uses the term "evidences" when speaking of the facts indicating that evolution has occurred. I was surprised by this use, but I have since seen it used elsewhere, usually in reference to evolution (or Creationism). I was surprised, because I was familiar with "evidence" as a sort of collective singular, mainly in a legal context. Do you have any idea why facts would be described with a singular "evidence" in the legal context, and the plural in scientific contexts?
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