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Convention-al Thinking

Wednesday, July 02, 2008

Bob Hennelly, WNYC senior reporter, and Chuck Samuelson, executive director of the ACLU of Minnesota, discuss the extent to which St. Paul and Denver are using New York in 2004 as a model for this summer's political conventions.


Comments

  • [1] eCAHNomics July 02, 2008 - 10:10AM

    NYC during R convention was like Baghdad without the tanks. It was horrible, everything locked down. Completely removed from the realm of anything human. Conventioneers walked out the door of their hotel across a sidewalk into a bus, got transported 4 blocks, walked across a sidewalk into the convention center. Guess the Rs were their usual scardey kats; afraid of walking 4 blocks on NYC sidewalks. What a disaster.


  • [2] Hugh from Crown Heights July 02, 2008 - 10:12AM

    History history history. Bob Hennelly and others need to go back and see what the NYPD was claiming in the immediate aftermath of the convention. They made specific claims about protester violence -- all such claims (but one, apparently) proved to be false.

    MOREOVER, the NYPD was proved conclusively to have attempted to instigate violence.

    Hennelly, in claiming the NYPD was successful, engages in a logical fallacy. IF the NYPD just pointed guns at _everyone_, and there were no violence, would that prove that drawing guns is successful?

    AND the NYPD is also maintaining files. Check with the NYCLU and the Center for Constitutional Rights.

    Contrary to Mr. Lehrer's "he said she said" false neutrality, the FACT is that some 1600 people were arrested, kept in criminally poor conditions -- entirely without justification.


  • [3] Glenn from Manhattan July 02, 2008 - 10:17AM

    So we figure Africans are the only ones who go crazy and hurt each other during election times?

    The American Friends Service Committee is no longer much a 'service' committee for which it won the Nobel Prize and is not well connected to 'Friends' or Quakers anymore. AFSC is a far left wing political action and or agitation committee which coordinates protests as one of its primary activities.


  • [4] kurt from uws July 02, 2008 - 10:18AM

    Yeah! Lock 'em all up in oil soaked concrete piers. Success! Beat up the grannie's against the war. Unprecedented success!


  • [5] Robert from NYC July 02, 2008 - 10:20AM

    Historically it reminds me of how some fascist regimes get started by taking total control of the situation by denying people rights then moving to beating and jailing people without any real cause making false accusations of exactly what the "motives" were. Then having the media not really react nor take the actions to task but rather present the this side and that side without pointing out the injustices and illegal methods followed by these regimes. It allows them to take the next step until power is in hand.


  • [6] Glenn from Manhattan July 02, 2008 - 10:29AM

    The job of government is to protect its citizens (sometimes from themselves). So, my question above must have fallen on deaf ears? The ACLU and leftists say that The Quakers were spied on. Again, the AFSC is not the Quakers and this is just rhetoric and a cute sound byte that sounds good and can make tracks for people with a (left wing) agenda.


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