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The Power of One

Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Clay Shirky, author of Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations, discusses the power of the internet to organize from the bottom up instead of from the top down.

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Comments

  • [1] drew from New Jersey March 25, 2008 - 11:14AM

    There's an instance with a stolen X-Box, and Laptop that was returned as a result of the victim posting on digg.com about it and getting people to harass the theif.

    See an article about it here:

    http://kotaku.com/371311/digg-bitch-slaps-kid-for-360-ransom


  • [2] Derek Tutschulte from Brooklyn March 25, 2008 - 11:16AM

    What does this mean for healthcare, the stock market, government, etc.?


  • [3] Charles Teague from New York March 25, 2008 - 11:17AM

    It's always been possible to get a police dept. to respond to pressure; the difference in the "Sasha" example is that it wasn't a rich person (ex: Rockefeller), it wasn't a voting block (ex: Irish), it was a relatively average person with a normal problem. What's so bad about that?

    Good parenting would have made that kid give the phone back immediately; better parenting and the kid would have called the owner when they first found it. The owner may have had to pay upload fees for the photos, etc. The kid's behaviour is reprehensible.


  • [4] Derek Tutschulte from Brooklyn March 25, 2008 - 11:18AM

    Is America particularly well-suited to take advantage of social networking and collaboration in an economic sense?


  • [5] heather from brooklyn March 25, 2008 - 11:19AM

    Can you talk about the use of text messaging during the riots in France a few years ago?


  • [6] kK from stamford, CT March 25, 2008 - 11:21AM

    As the old saying goes, don't do or say anything that you wouldn't want on the front page. This girl who "found" the phone is in the same position - she should have done the right thing! Anonymity will no longer protect those who don't.


  • [7] renee from NJ March 25, 2008 - 11:22AM

    Network Neutrality is so important. It is the only reason Barak Obama has a fighting chance at the presidency and the only way for the proletariat to have a significant voice in the global community. Can you speak about that please?


  • [8] eCAHNomics March 25, 2008 - 11:26AM

    "Voice is not saved."

    1. How long before that is no longer true?

    2. We were told in a Wall Street annual compliance lecture, as soon as email came in (early 90s) never to put anything in an email that you didn't want to last forever. Voice only. So how did analysts get caught for pumping tech stocks: email. Hahahahaha.


  • [9] AS from NJ March 25, 2008 - 11:27AM

    I recently googled my daughter's father name and found the website of his business, a cigar club in moscow. They have never met mostly because he doesn't want to. I am sitting on this information and I could potentially wreck havoc on his business because he relies on very high end costumers....but I won't do it. It's just amazing how easy it is to find people on the internet.


  • [10] Seth from Astoria March 25, 2008 - 11:28AM

    I think they deserve to have their lives messed with. Maybe the next time the judgement call of take or turn in to lost and found, they'll make a better call.

    I think It's horrible that Within Hours of losing a phone, someone else has used it, changed the numbers, taken pictures of their family, all with no regards to the person whose phone it actually is. What about identity theft if they made calls from your phone.

    There is a Crime called Petty Larceny. If you see something that's not yours, you pick it up and keep it. You're committing a crime.


  • [11] Derek Tutschulte from Brooklyn March 25, 2008 - 11:29AM

    Twitter is for large-scale open conversations.


  • [12] anthony clune from Brooklyn March 25, 2008 - 11:35AM

    A super interesting conversation. During art school, I took a class at NYU’s ITP (Interactive Telecommunications Program). I was appalled at how critiques rarely focused on IDEAS and CONTENT. Rather conversations in class primarily dwelled around PROCESS.


  • [13] Mike from Manhattan March 25, 2008 - 11:39AM

    I know a woman who blogged about her boyfriend, and about her breakup. I know them both. Now that I know about her blog, I don't say anything personal to her, since I don't trust her to keep it private.


  • [14] Robert from NYC March 25, 2008 - 11:39AM

    I find it very interesting and educational to hear what everyone everywhere has to say even if I don't agree at all with what they believe or say. These are voices I'd never hear if such venues-- such as this one too--were not available on the internet. Dialogue can't be bad...uh, most of the time--I have to cover my butt too, okay?


  • [15] renee from NJ March 25, 2008 - 11:41AM

    Sooooooooo true Anthony Clune. This my sound off topic but have you read Orson Scott Card's "Ender's Game" Series? Well; two kid's change the world by stating their ideas about the global political situation on the "nets" (Card wrote this over 10years ago; deep hugh?).


  • [16] Corey from Montclair, NJ March 25, 2008 - 12:23PM

    I thought it was interesting that there was no mention of the ego-driven aspect of the internet. Take the female caller's obvious pride in telling how HER story of how HER account of HER divorce made HER a celebrity, etc.... In the pre-internet days, a divorce was hardly anything to get too excited about. And it definitely wasn't something that was considered proper to discuss with anyone and everyone. But now it's an opportunity to tell the world about YOUR experience, to have people listen to YOUR story, and so on.

    I also thought it was interesting that neither Brian nor the host touched on the issue of whether the comments that people publish online are true or appropriate. Instead, the impression given was simply that the internet is "empowering." Is it? As much as I detest the girl who stole the Sidekick (and the racist comments that she and her family members made, online), the fact is that now she'll forever be search-able, and find-able... on that basis. Is there any reason to think that what an employer, for example, finds about her 10 years from now will be sifted through a truth-filter?


  • [17] laurie from NYC March 25, 2008 - 12:55PM

    Corey,

    You are right, it is very ego-driven to tell MY story. (just like the medium of writing a book about one's life would be). I cannot tell anyone else's story, but my own. And the podcast/blog that I produce doesn't celebrate the divorce itself (which I am not proud of) but it celebrates the survival and revival of self after tragedy.

    We get a lot of mail that thanks us for putting words to emotions that real people have -- sharing a story that was once considered taboo to talk about (as you say). And in fact, my ego-driven story is the story of thousands....that people can relate to. I have put a voice to the "shame" felt with divorce and it has struck a chord with many.

    Am I proud? You bet I am.


  • [18] Eric from NYC March 25, 2008 - 12:58PM

    Brian, Couldn't the telephone company that provides services(and bills) for the lost/stolen Sidekick have turned off all service to the phone?

    P.S. I remember reading about some people who want to make two internets.One wild and wooly(like it is now) and one, a closed system(Universities,government,military) like it started out. You spoke about two possible Facebooks. One registered, and one anonymous and wild and wooly. Any comments?


  • [19] mike pidel from yonkers March 26, 2008 - 12:18AM

    I am hoping that Crowd sourcing will be used to report and document dangerous driving .

    i have been trying to start a movement to get drivers to use the newly available self contained video cameras as dash cams to video tape their drives. Many drivers rightly complain of the incredible dangerous drivers they encounter everyday on the road. The question is how to stop them. Innocent people are needlessly dying everyday on the road due to preventable dangerous driving behavior.

    i an hoping that people will get proactive and spend under $200 bucks to videotape their driving and use crowd sourcing by uploading the dangerous drivers they record to a video site.

    crowns sourcing may make a difference in using the internet to let people know they are no longer anonymous on the road and if they do something that endangers others they may be appearing on you tube to out the deadly drivers.

    Motor vehicle deaths are higher than gun deaths and the biggest killers of teenagers in the usa.

    Some of the new handheld digital video cameras like the flip camera, are easily uploaded to you tube, the higher end has tripod mount that would help with mounting on the dash.


  • [20] jonny goldstein from DC March 26, 2008 - 11:43AM

    I continue find this stuff fascinating. Personally, I love the way things are moving toward a more unpredictable, chaotic, self organizing, communications-scape.


  • [21] willy from brooklyn March 27, 2008 - 02:39PM

    this is the website of the girl's friend:

    http://www.evanwashere.com/main.html


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