Civilized means being able to live in a city
with all that implies about getting along with others
we have a police department and judicial system
to handle the people unwilling to comply

Taher from Croton on Hudson, You of all people, calling others "deluded racists".

Hypocrisy, thy name is Taher from Croton on Hudson.

John From NYC, you are obviously a deluded racist. Only a person living in a fantasy world can make a dumb statement like this.
Easy to make an idiotic comment like this from your white privilege status.
You probably have never been on a reservation.
Stupid, ignorant comment, John From NYC.

This is BS. Indians do not have "lesser rights" than "European Americans." They have ALL of the rights of ALL Americans.

Some Indians (Native Americans?) have ADDITIONAL rights of Nationhood.

The whole concept of Indian Nationhood is obviously very difficult. (Can they sign treaties with China?????)

Where there are "Jurisdictional gaps," we should fix them.

But the rest of this POMO BS about THE OTHER gets boring.

Are the Afganies "uncivilized" in some way? Ask Afgan women!!!!!!!!!!!

Just read a review of Louise Erdrich's new book, "The Roundhouse," which apparently addresses this very issue of this jurisdictional gap regarding sexually violent crime. Chilling.

I took Federal Indian Law at Harvard Law School with Professor Williams. The class changed my life. The concept of the Native American as savage is embedded in our law and culture. Quick question, I wonder what Prof. Williams thinks about the canonization of the first Native American saint and how her story is framed by the Catholic Church.

Any word on the morality of using Indians to legalize gambling for Americans?
Seems like a real legal hack.

LOL who was more savage than the Romans! How dare they call and treat others as savages. Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres...

Well wouldn't the word barbarian what the Greeks called anyone who was not Greek, be the same as calling them savage.

Ha "Martin" I don't think it has worked that well for a lot of "victims" - but heck, your tribe got their own state because of white - ooops, sorry "western guilt" - the blacks and Native Americans are still waiting for their checks.

If Romney and Obama could have given Con man Bibi a foot rub during the last debate in Florida - they would.

As Eric Hoffer & the great "Martin" said, "All great movements start out as a cause, evolve into a business, and end up as a racket." Amen.

@MC -

At least your before the segment 'reviews' make it clear that this is your prejudice and not based on anything you may have heard or learned...

As an under-grad - over thirty years ago - I wrote that we would know that the need for affirmative action had ended when the incomes, education and wealth of formerly oppressed minorities were statistically indistinguishable from the general population. Not equal, mind you, just close enough. In other words, the benefit that accrues to being in the power majority (aka white privilege) had been erased. I see no reason to change that opinion.

How would you measure the need for affirmative action? Or are you just a bomb-thrower?

...."has continued impact on indigenous culture."

LOL, read that as "a legitimate claim as permanent victims of "the man" and a basis for never-ending affirmative action preferences." Hey, it has worked for African-Americans, hasn't it? LOL, and Elizabeth Warren, our 1/32 Cherokee Princess?
....and it works for this guy's academic career ... an endowed chair at a law school and generous Soros Foundation grants.

As Eric Hoffer said, "All great movements start out as a cause, evolve into a business, and end up as a racket."