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Regarding: Wikipedia

(I never really use it too much since it is NOT verified!)

They say Option One:

Just use google and search for the term you like.
Search all the way on the list till you come to the google link you would like.

You can always try their Option two:

Use a foreign language of wikipedia!
(Yeah, I know, right?) So, say you chose, hmmm, German (You have to know
your URL country extensions.).

google.de

Plug in the term search.
Now take the German text and use Google's language translation capabilities
(and usually get a remotely accurate translation).

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Bohdan just says this:

https://www.google.com/search?q="Brian"

where "Brian" is your search term!

Anyways, you won't need this info in a few hours since wikipedia will be back.

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Bohdan

Copyright exists to provide an incentive to make creative works.
If anything, the internet demonstrates that 10s of millions of
people will do this for free - so if anything the incentive
should be reduced.

Instead, copyright now virtually never expires and infringes
grossly on FUNDAMENTALLY MORE IMPORTANT RIGHTS like freedom
of speech and expression and privacy.

It's time to massively reduce copyright restrictions, sanctions
and enforcement. It's time to make sure that Copyright monopolies
are well taxed with an IP sales tax.

It's time to reign in copyright and other IP monopolies -
they've gone nuts and are damaging our society.

How about we monitor the number of times a member of congress says something to the effect of "I'm not really yet familiar with all of these new technologies, but...."

Then add five years.

AT THAT POINT congress should be allowed to discuss legislation that affects the underlying domain registry system of the Internet.

To instead have heavy-handed legislation that is written by the entertainment industry and without fundamental input either by the public or by the technology community is laughable. This is only happening because of the buckets of money flowing from old guard media companies to congress.

Shame.

Just listened to your show about SOPA/PIPA. Thank you so much for covering this issue. I was very impressed by the coverage. Nancy Scola was extremely accurate, knowledgeable, and articulate.

Thanks also for highlighting subtle elements of media manipulation such as how the Wall Street Journal (Murdoch) and other content/media companies try to steer this discussion in their favor by framing it as a company vs. company issue rather than a company vs. people issue.

We should not allow our government to continually pass laws which give outdated business models artificial relevance at the expense of society.

NPR, keep up the good work!

These bills implement a BLACKLIST RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT. Blacklisting is McCarthyism all over again. Anyone on the blacklist gets DNS blocked, IP address blocked (burden on Internet service providers), business blocked, and money blocked (burden on banks). Anyone not enforcing the blacklist gets blacklisted.
Censorship is Prohibition all over again - it immediately creates a market for subversion and work-arounds.
Also a great way to SUPPRESS MINORITY opinions. A chronic chilling effect.

I take this as a sign that the Internet has grown up.

The academic/scientific network has grown up and is ready to leave the nest. As such, Congress should not act to define new roles for providers without sufficient evidence. I have written my congressman, Rush Holt, who is already on record against the current legislation, asking for a committee to study a new structure for regulation of the Internet - FCC and FTC are outgunned - and to begin to tax sales of commerce on the Internet, with the bulk of the collected taxes going back to the state of residence.

So does this mean we should pass one all encompassing law where any corporation that has illegal activity taking place within, will also be shut down? How about News Corp for their cell phone hacking scandal? Goldman Sacks for selling 'clients' derivatives, which they themselves internally rated as toxic? Chase for being associated with Bernie Madoff? Or BP for the oil spill in the gulf? The list could go on and on and on.

Yes we need to help protect from copyright infringement. But not like this. How ironic that many of the supporters of these two bills are the same folks who also scream for less government.

The current system where reputable sites remove illegal and offensive content works quite well. If you can't come up with a 'better' solution, then let's leave well enough alone until you do.

Peace - John

Is it really as simple as business vs business? Please read up on these two bills and understand how this might impact your own personal blog or the economy if new tech businesses don't get funding to grow and expand and innovate. What will that do to the US economy overall considering how important the tech sector has been to our economy. Will other nations start blowing past us with new tech and internet based innovation?

No one wants their own activity regulated, whether they are a big business like Google, Facebook or Goldman Sachs or a not for profit like the Koch brother's The Americans for Prosperity, Karl Rove's Crossroads SuperPac or Jimmy Wales's Wikipedia.
The arguments against the anti-piracy laws have an eerily familiar structure.
They are the same as the Wall Street firms threatening an end to financial innovation or the conflation of money with speech.
All regulation is a trade off between a socially desirable goal and the convenience of or expense to the activities regulated.
Undoubtedly the anti piracy laws are not perfect.
I am sure that everyone would welcome suggestions that would be genuine improvements.
I am afraid, however, that most of the opposition to the regulations comes from businesses looking at their bottom lines or consumers who feel that they are entitled to steal the livelihoods of the artists and craftspeople who create.

Brian. I just entered SOPA into a wikipedia.org search and it opened and remained open. Interesting.

Wait, what happens when someone in these very comments knowingly or unknowingly links to a site with pirated material? Brian, you better start policing your comments otherwise your site might be brought down!

It's not a workaround or a trick.

Wikipedia VERY CLEARLY STATES on the Learn More page that it doesn't want to deprive people of the content. It VERY CLEARLY STATES that you can access Wikipedia on mobile browsers or by disabling Flash (the blackout page is a Flash script).

Really?

Pointless if you go back online tomorrow. S

Wikipedia announced before the blackout that there would be ways around it. If Wikipedia wanted to truly block its content it could. This dose not make any statement about how real blocking would work.

I'm not a fan of SOPA, but there's a lot of insane paranoia about what it would allow the government to do. A lot of it is "geeks" who have legitimate but wonky concerns trying to scare non-geeks who they think wouldn't get it otherwise. For instance, it won't "break the internet".

I don't think wikipedia minds that people are using workarounds. The point isn't to restrict access to information, it's just a matter of raising awareness.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

"Is it still possible to access Wikipedia in any way?

Yes. During the blackout, Wikipedia is accessible on mobile devices and smart phones. You can also view Wikipedia normally by disabling JavaScript in your browser, as explained on this Technical FAQ page. Our purpose here isn't to make it completely impossible for people to read Wikipedia, and it's okay for you to circumvent the blackout. We just want to make sure you see our message."

It was never intended to completely block access.

Brian, normally you have experts on to discuss things... you could really use one today on this subject. Accurate, in-depth information is lacking.

And it works!

What a weird day! I sent twitter and facebook links to wikipedia and reddit so friends could read about it and understand. THEN I get to work and find out a website we created for my brother has gone viral! I sit stunned after reading analytics that people in almost every country of the world has read my work and seen picture a picture of my (now deceased) father. the internet at it's best. the internet at it's strangest.

Anyone remember the DMCA? Countless companies have abused the DMCA takedown process to remove content they didn't necessarily own the copyright to, with barely any oversight.

SOPA would allow for entire sites to be removed, with a similar lack of oversight on the process.

Off topic but I have a slow internet connection and Today I notice that the "little bit" that a wikipedia page stays up is about a minute. Enough to still do research.

New York's tech community is coming out in force to protest these bills today at 12:30 at the offices of Senators Schumer and Gillibrand, including speakers Clay Shirky, Alexis Ohanian (founder of Reddit), Scott Heiferman (founder of meetup.com), John Perry Barlow, Andrew McLaughlin, Eli Pariser, Tim Karr, and David Segal. http://nytm.org/sos/

One of my biggest concerns/questions is how does SOPA/PIPA have authority over the internet? The internet is not an entity of the united states, its such a global thing, even if a domain is based in america, shutting it down would affect people outside of the US. How does congress have jurisdiction (right word?) over this?

A/N: I somewhat resent the speaker saying this is a "geeks" movement, as this is something that effects everyone. Its not just "geeks" who use the internet anymore...

Doesn't the congress have better things to do? Isn't there a budget to balance? What are the congress' priorities?

As a content creator who spends a lot of time tracking down people who have stolen my work, I would love that process to be easier, but I don't think this legislation is the way to do it.

We are dark today to protest SOPA. http://bit.ly/cwebba1
See the The Oatmeal's comment on SOPA today: http://theoatmeal.com
I emailed my Congresswoman Maloney today. Contact your representative!

Handy tip: Wikipedia is available if you disable style sheets.

My own bit of advocacy against SOPA and PIPA: http://audsandens.blogspot.com/2012/01/sopa-pipa-and-strangling-of-creativity.html.

With the huge mix of garbage being churned by Holywood, I find torrents a good way to sift through the junk and support the movies that I find worth my dollar through purchasing new release DVDs

big business may always win, but who wins when it's big business vs another big business? (i.e. google vs music/movie studios)

Rule 17: big business always wins

It's fascinating to see private companies protesting for something that is good for the populace but their influence on legislation good or bad is terrifying. It speaks volumes of how powerless we are as citizens, and how futile things like Occupy Wall Street are. This is a mixed blessing.

Anyone that fully wants to understand how SOPA/PIPA will affect the everyday person must reason an explanation on these bills. Here's a great explanation from reddit:

http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/technical-examination-of-sopa-and.html