"Double ,double
Toil and trouble
Fire Burns and
cauldrons bubble"

"Tis time,tis time"
MacBeth Act one Witches brew

It seems to me after watching the interview of Bob Ward last night and rewatching it.
I came away with BW wanting to recreate the "Deep Throat" moments from history.
He is both the whistle blower and outer in a classical sense. Some one in a thrusted position
to whom people "leaked" ostensibly knowable events? which in fact where probably
secure ar prevligged info.
I can not imagine Bill Gates, Admiral Mullin, Generals retires and active commenting
for public commsumption the things that were said.
Nor the President of the USA.
I thought originally from shorter interviews on other programs that was a indictment
of the President.
N.B. That is not be dismissed summarily
Now I believe that BW intent was to out the The Military and there political counterparts
the Pentagon and the CIA.
He used the book to "out" military trio in my view. It seemed clear to me that the
refusal of the Joint Chief of Staff Commander and the Secretary of Defense to covertly ignore
or counter man an order of the President , or very overtly in this case, constitutes an
act of insurbirdination.
General Mc Crystal did a dumb thing not a delibrate act.
Where is the justice?
That I see as BW position. Although some what arcane in the broadest sense, given
the formnat of an hour show and brillant interview it comes through.

"Tis time, tis time"

O' well done I commend your pains
And every one shall share the gain"
MacBeth Act one witches brew
William Shakespeare

giovanni buscemi

I had thought that we learned from Vietnam not to try to fight an insurgent war within 'borders'. The Taliban are using Pakistan just like Laos and Cambodia were used in the earlier conflict. The world is supposed to know that if attacked, the US will prosecute its defense completely; i.e. 'you don't want to mess with us.' This is supposed to keep us OUT of wars. Yes, Pakistan has nuclear weapons, but should that stop us from defending our troops? Pakistan IS messing with us. What can we do about it? Please note: I'm not pro-war, but now that we're in, how can we not do what needs to be done? The status quo is untenable - just like it was in 1973.

Mr. Woodward,

If Obama did not want to do nation building in afghanistan, then why do you think Collin Powell supported Obama for president. Powell was the voice of nation-building under Bush. He said if you break it, you have to fix it.

Obama said that Afghanistan was the war of our vital interests. Not Iraq. Commander in Chief to troops: "We need you to risk your lives, but you have 18 months to accomplish the mission." This is not how a war must be conducted, as Charles Krauthammer scathingly opined a week ago Friday.

Can you please comment on the resignation of James Jones because of his comments to you in your book.

I love the way that the fact that a man "cried in public" is trotted out by Woodward as evidence that the man's information is unreliable and his actions without defense. What makes "a man"--or any human--unreliable in public is actually when he spouts groundless, human-phobic nonsense.

Thank God, Obama is in office. If A republican had won we would have press attacks every day against the war, Obama continued all Bush policies and no one makes a peep.

Thank god. We should leave Pakistan to rot.

one lesson from the cold war. the USA should not have abandoned afghanistan after the soviet defeat. (this lead to 911) the USA should not abandon afghanistan now.
this is a struggle for modernity.

Should we try to mediate an Indian and Pakistan peace in the same way we do with the Israeli and Palestinian conflict?

Why are we listening to CIA agent Woodward?

Hey. I called this the "BUSH 100 year war"
over 5 years ago..

look at sos-newdeal.blogspot.com//

and I started the count from the FIRST bush in 1990...

Remember :
* they didn't call it the 100 year war while it was going on.
* they didn't call it the "GREAT" depression while it was going on, and only about 10 years after it was over.

YES, we are in DEPRESSION 2.0 NOW....

Woodward's recounting reinforces the institutionalization of the "military industrial complex" and the fact that the military has carved out its own fiefdom with an implacable shadow government.