Hola! I'm a recent Marketing & Management Fordham MBA looking for opportunities to create consumer behaviors that are more responsible. My passions lie in travel, social media, and the growing green revolution.
I decided to start my own blog about the "Recession Job Search" at www.heenavirani.com. Feel free to join me in my quest to discover my true passions while being pulled by economic, social, and emotional constraints.
Good luck to all Graduates and Congrats!
May. 15 2009 12:52 PM
Score: 0/0
J.C.
from Minneapolis
Re: db's comments.
I assume that db's comments concern lawyers, but maybe they also concern white-collar workers. I'm not sure.
But even though I do not recommend going to law school to anyone who doesn't have a trust fund, let me rebut db's insinuation that people who don't produce stuff are somehow not important or less-worthy economic actors.
1. White-collar workers buy the products produced, otherwise the "producers" would have no market.
2. Lawyers help enforce the contracts and other laws that give confidence to the marketplace that allows producers to sell stuff. Believe me, if you couldn't collect from a buyer who didn't pay, all producers would be in the poorhouse. Business likes to throw temper tantrums about government, but business really does need government in order to function.
So, enough with this pompous talk about how people who don't produce tangible stuff are somehow a scourge on society.
May. 15 2009 10:12 AM
Score: 0/0
anonniemuss
from NYC
So db, all the prosecutors should retire and grow carrots instead? And all the Madoffs of the world will take their own depositions? And all the pension funds who lost money should grow vegetables too instead of hiring plaintiffs' lawyers to try to get it back, I suppose. Yeah that sounds like a great plan.
May. 14 2009 04:33 PM
Score: 0/0
db
from nyc
be a farmer!!!
May. 14 2009 12:21 PM
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Roberta Sutton
from NYC
I am graduating next week from The New School with a Masters in Organizational Change Management. I chose to pursue this degree in 2007 because I thought that the MBA was already becoming less relevant to organizations' needs to have *sustainable growth and development,* which is the core of Milano's curriculum.
I am more optimistic than I am apprehensive about my future opportunities to work and and contribute.
May. 14 2009 12:14 PM
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db
from nyc
... how about producing something instead of lining your pockets?
May. 14 2009 12:14 PM
Score: 0/0
anonymouslawyer
from NY, NY
Oh and one more thing: if you are ok with being poor for the rest of your life and plan to work in public interest law, be advised that most of the big law firms who have deferred start dates for the new lawyers they already hired have placed them in public interest law jobs that the firms subsidize. So unless you have a firm behind you ready to cough up some dough just to get you that public interest job, don't assume you'll get one.
May. 14 2009 12:01 PM
Score: 0/0
anonymouslawyer
from NY, NY
To all those grads thinking about going to law school: please don't! There are too many of us already! If you do just a tiny bit of research you will see that the number of unemployed lawyers right now is at a 10-year high and that more than 3,000 of us lost our jobs during the first 3 months of 2009. The layoffs are still continuing. I have always relied on temp work to get me through rough times but I have not been able to get even that since February. (That's another thing to ask the law schools, by the way, if you are still determined to apply: what percentage of their grads who they claim are working in the legal industry are working as temps? If they tell you they don't track that, you are safer assuming it is quite high, unless you are going to an Ivy law school).
May. 14 2009 11:59 AM
Score: 0/0
Che
from Soho
Brian,
I graduated august of '08 (should have finished May) and have been working at a promising company since. Low level job and promotion, though far away, is imminent.
However, i find myself wondering if it would behoove me to go to graduate school (Masters, MBA or Law School) or stay in the working world and hope to be there in the trenches when things starting getting better?
May. 14 2009 11:57 AM
Score: 0/0
J.C.
from Minneapolis
Be VERY careful about going to law school! I hate to say it, but unless you have $50,000 sitting the bank, you will suffer big time when the loan payments come due! It's a sad statement of the way it is in America these days (and a sad statement of the state of the legal job market), but that's how it is right now.
May. 14 2009 11:57 AM
Score: 0/0
Roberta Sutton
from NYC
I am graduating with my masters in organizational change management next week. I chose this degree instead of an MBA because it seems like the MBA was becoming less useful as organizations end up needing help with *sustainable growth*. I'm excited to be done and more optimistic than apprehensive.
May. 14 2009 11:56 AM
Score: 0/0
Meg Wiviott
from Morristown, NJ
My daughter graduated last year and was hired by the Department of Defense. Her dream job. Many of her friends from college (in DC) got jobs in government.
My son is a freshman in business school. With luck the economy will be better when he graduates.
May. 14 2009 11:56 AM
Score: 0/0
bill
to the Girl and Guy who just called in saying she is going to law school. Don't do it, it lieterally will ruin your life. You will come out with 150k in debt and your job prosepcts will still stinks. Every day lawyers are getting laid off by hunders. If you do this, you are stupid.
May. 14 2009 11:55 AM
Score: 0/0
Lina
after applying for over 50 jobs in the past few months I am beginning to think that the my best choice for what's to come next is hiking the Pacific Crest Trail this summer. Hey, it's a three month rent and worry free experience! ..probably a good way to ride out bad economic times! :)
May. 14 2009 11:55 AM
Score: 0/0
Alex
from NYC
Wish I could call in, but I'm headed to B-school graduation now.
I've got a job, but it isn't my dream job. I had thought that an MBA would propel me into a higher-paying job in my industry (not finance) but now I'm not sure how valuable the degree really is.
In fact, though I am proud of my achievement, lots of people have mocked me for getting this degree.
May. 14 2009 11:40 AM
Score: 0/0
Andrea
from NYC
09 Graduate from International Trade and Market, from FIT. I'm jumping ship. Moving to Uganda till the US has stable jobs and healthcare.
May. 14 2009 11:32 AM
Score: 0/0
Brian Squibb
from Brooklyn
I am graduating from B-school today. I do not have a job lined up now, but feel that I will be OK. I'll likely end up back in the technology space, which is where I was before I went back to school.
Several of my classmates with offers for banking/consulting firms are having their start dates pushed back by months or even having their offers rescinded completely. The latter has occurred frequently for international students with financial firms that accepted TARP money. Unfortunately these students will likely need to go home when their student visas expire in a few months since their job prospects do not look good.
May. 14 2009 11:15 AM
Score: 0/0
Tyler
from Manhattan
Graduated last year from Brooklyn Law School. My job prospects were then and remain virtually obselete. I am, and most of my classmates are working as temps just to pay rent, without even beginning to address our $150k+ student loans
May. 14 2009 11:08 AM
Score: 0/0
Tyler
from Manhattan
Graduated last year from Brooklyn Law School. My job prospects were then and remain virtually obselete. I am, and most of my classmates are working as temps just to pay rent, without even beginning to address our $150k+ student loans
May. 14 2009 11:07 AM
Score: 0/0
Elle
from Manhattan
I graduated yesterday from medical school, and have never been more grateful for the job security that comes with being a doctor.
When I graduated from undergrad, the business school graduates were told they were now the "masters of the universe". I bet they're not feeling quite so superior to the rest of us these days.
May. 14 2009 10:58 AM
Score: 0/0
Adele
from Brooklyn
I will be graduating from the New School with a focus in Urban Studies.
I plan on keeping my mind-numbing part-time job as a personal assistant until I find something full-time... I'm hoping that my well-connected employer will be instrumental in this.
One final note: I am a hard-working and jane-of-all-trades employee, with special interest in sustainable solid waste management. Please hire me!
May. 14 2009 10:43 AM
Score: 0/0
Mark
The class of '09?! Hey man, the class of '08 is still waiting for jobs! Get in line...
May. 14 2009 10:34 AM
Score: 0/0
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Hola! I'm a recent Marketing & Management Fordham MBA looking for opportunities to create consumer behaviors that are more responsible. My passions lie in travel, social media, and the growing green revolution.
I decided to start my own blog about the "Recession Job Search" at www.heenavirani.com. Feel free to join me in my quest to discover my true passions while being pulled by economic, social, and emotional constraints.
Good luck to all Graduates and Congrats!
Re: db's comments.
I assume that db's comments concern lawyers, but maybe they also concern white-collar workers. I'm not sure.
But even though I do not recommend going to law school to anyone who doesn't have a trust fund, let me rebut db's insinuation that people who don't produce stuff are somehow not important or less-worthy economic actors.
1. White-collar workers buy the products produced, otherwise the "producers" would have no market.
2. Lawyers help enforce the contracts and other laws that give confidence to the marketplace that allows producers to sell stuff. Believe me, if you couldn't collect from a buyer who didn't pay, all producers would be in the poorhouse. Business likes to throw temper tantrums about government, but business really does need government in order to function.
So, enough with this pompous talk about how people who don't produce tangible stuff are somehow a scourge on society.
So db, all the prosecutors should retire and grow carrots instead? And all the Madoffs of the world will take their own depositions? And all the pension funds who lost money should grow vegetables too instead of hiring plaintiffs' lawyers to try to get it back, I suppose. Yeah that sounds like a great plan.
be a farmer!!!
I am graduating next week from The New School with a Masters in Organizational Change Management. I chose to pursue this degree in 2007 because I thought that the MBA was already becoming less relevant to organizations' needs to have *sustainable growth and development,* which is the core of Milano's curriculum.
I am more optimistic than I am apprehensive about my future opportunities to work and and contribute.
... how about producing something instead of lining your pockets?
Oh and one more thing: if you are ok with being poor for the rest of your life and plan to work in public interest law, be advised that most of the big law firms who have deferred start dates for the new lawyers they already hired have placed them in public interest law jobs that the firms subsidize. So unless you have a firm behind you ready to cough up some dough just to get you that public interest job, don't assume you'll get one.
To all those grads thinking about going to law school: please don't! There are too many of us already! If you do just a tiny bit of research you will see that the number of unemployed lawyers right now is at a 10-year high and that more than 3,000 of us lost our jobs during the first 3 months of 2009. The layoffs are still continuing. I have always relied on temp work to get me through rough times but I have not been able to get even that since February. (That's another thing to ask the law schools, by the way, if you are still determined to apply: what percentage of their grads who they claim are working in the legal industry are working as temps? If they tell you they don't track that, you are safer assuming it is quite high, unless you are going to an Ivy law school).
Brian,
I graduated august of '08 (should have finished May) and have been working at a promising company since. Low level job and promotion, though far away, is imminent.
However, i find myself wondering if it would behoove me to go to graduate school (Masters, MBA or Law School) or stay in the working world and hope to be there in the trenches when things starting getting better?
Be VERY careful about going to law school! I hate to say it, but unless you have $50,000 sitting the bank, you will suffer big time when the loan payments come due! It's a sad statement of the way it is in America these days (and a sad statement of the state of the legal job market), but that's how it is right now.
I am graduating with my masters in organizational change management next week. I chose this degree instead of an MBA because it seems like the MBA was becoming less useful as organizations end up needing help with *sustainable growth*. I'm excited to be done and more optimistic than apprehensive.
My daughter graduated last year and was hired by the Department of Defense. Her dream job. Many of her friends from college (in DC) got jobs in government.
My son is a freshman in business school. With luck the economy will be better when he graduates.
to the Girl and Guy who just called in saying she is going to law school. Don't do it, it lieterally will ruin your life. You will come out with 150k in debt and your job prosepcts will still stinks. Every day lawyers are getting laid off by hunders. If you do this, you are stupid.
after applying for over 50 jobs in the past few months I am beginning to think that the my best choice for what's to come next is hiking the Pacific Crest Trail this summer. Hey, it's a three month rent and worry free experience! ..probably a good way to ride out bad economic times! :)
Wish I could call in, but I'm headed to B-school graduation now.
I've got a job, but it isn't my dream job. I had thought that an MBA would propel me into a higher-paying job in my industry (not finance) but now I'm not sure how valuable the degree really is.
In fact, though I am proud of my achievement, lots of people have mocked me for getting this degree.
09 Graduate from International Trade and Market, from FIT. I'm jumping ship. Moving to Uganda till the US has stable jobs and healthcare.
I am graduating from B-school today. I do not have a job lined up now, but feel that I will be OK. I'll likely end up back in the technology space, which is where I was before I went back to school.
Several of my classmates with offers for banking/consulting firms are having their start dates pushed back by months or even having their offers rescinded completely. The latter has occurred frequently for international students with financial firms that accepted TARP money. Unfortunately these students will likely need to go home when their student visas expire in a few months since their job prospects do not look good.
Graduated last year from Brooklyn Law School. My job prospects were then and remain virtually obselete. I am, and most of my classmates are working as temps just to pay rent, without even beginning to address our $150k+ student loans
Graduated last year from Brooklyn Law School. My job prospects were then and remain virtually obselete. I am, and most of my classmates are working as temps just to pay rent, without even beginning to address our $150k+ student loans
I graduated yesterday from medical school, and have never been more grateful for the job security that comes with being a doctor.
When I graduated from undergrad, the business school graduates were told they were now the "masters of the universe". I bet they're not feeling quite so superior to the rest of us these days.
I will be graduating from the New School with a focus in Urban Studies.
I plan on keeping my mind-numbing part-time job as a personal assistant until I find something full-time... I'm hoping that my well-connected employer will be instrumental in this.
One final note: I am a hard-working and jane-of-all-trades employee, with special interest in sustainable solid waste management. Please hire me!
The class of '09?! Hey man, the class of '08 is still waiting for jobs! Get in line...
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