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smithered, it only ignores my responsibilities if I feel differently as a Pakistani or as an American taxpayer. as I said, my attitude to the Taliban and other fanatics is the same my father and grandfather had; it is the American establishment (and the Pakistani establishment) that have been, by turns, playing footsie with fanatics and condemning them. my, our, opinion has been uniform all along, and opposed to the Pakistani establishment's wrong and short-sighted attitude to fanaticism whether I was living in Pakistan or the US--and opposed to the same on the part of the American establishment in both cases, too. I want a world where America can live up to the better angels of our nature, to live up to it's promise--and thus help make the world better and safer for everyone.

that's my responsibility, not toeing the US establishment's line or the Pakistani establishment's line if and when I see them acting in ways that hurt the interests of our respective countries and people.

The info in my my post above is from Phyllis Chesler -- see pchesler@phyllis-chesler.com and Phyllis-chesler.com.

How do you deal with the military industrial complex in Pakistan. From what I understand, it has its own independent sources of funding. They control most of the economy. Musaraf over the years had acquired a lot of agricultural land.

And, it is well known that most rich children from pakistan who have attended university in the USA are wealthy because they have a relative who is a general in the military. Most Generals become multi millionares in Pakistan.

Having said that, when outrage is expressed by #1 "Pak-Americans, it is never covered in the mainstream media. Only the crazy, fringe elements are given press coverage."

It doesn't have to be covered by the mainstream media. What matters most is that other Pakistanis speak on behalf of other Pakistanis. Why do people feel they have to go through "Daddy" first? If the Western nations cease to exist, will you cease to exist as well? Who will you turn to for help or blame then?

Thank you Phil -- any other details or a website?

Speaking of these issues -- Did you or WNYC cover the multi-cultural demonstration yesterday in Times Square against Islamic "makers of mass destruction," or have your new news task-masters from the Obama admin, the Democrat Party, groups who contribute to NPR like Move-On.Org and their loyal cronies who work at WNYC banned such coverage? You would have had a news crew out for three illegal aliens standing on a corner rallying for citizenship, you should have covered this rally, too. Multicultural Civilians Unite Against Radical Islam in NYC. On Sunday, May 3rd, at noon, in Times Square, in New York City, a gathering of eagles and of angels will take place. Come rain or come shine, the Human Rights Coalition Against Radical Islam is holding a rally. Please join us. The coalition is composed of Muslim, ex-Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Sikh, Buddhist, atheist, and human rights leaders who are "calling for the defeat of radical Islam." Note: I have not written that the coalition opposes "Islam" (although some may-they view it as a totalitarian, imperialistic, and apartheid political force, not as a "religion of peace"). Nor have I written that the coalition opposes "Muslims" (no one does-although, increasingly, the profound silence of "moderate" Muslims in response to radical Islamist crimes weighs heavily upon all human rights activists). The groups who are sponsoring this rally include, but are not limited to: Hindu Human Rights Watch, Indian American Intellectual Forum, 911 Families for A Secure America, American Coptic Union, Americans for a Safe Israel, Damanga (Darfur Muslim Council), R.E.A.L. (Responsible for Equality and Liberty), AMCHA, Chinese Community Relations Council, Muslims Against Sharia, Namdhari Sikh Foundation, Women United, Sudan Freedom Walk, Center for Security Policy, International Foundation of Bangladeshi Hindus, ACT for America, Foundation of Nepalese, Alliance for Interfaith Resistance, Stand With Us, etc.

Sami -- that video impressed me of the possibility that there is at least one Pakistani who felt the beating of a woman by religious leaders should be a topic of discussion.

"We expat Pakistanis feel the same way as the Pakistanis living there."

This kind of statement ignores both the responsibilities of being an American citizen, and your embrace of a safer life here.

This applies to all Americans, and especially ones with deeper global understanding, such as Pakistanis and other Muslims.

How can we bring the voices of all expatriate Pakistanis on one plate form? How can we Pakistanis unite against these disturbing elements when we cannot unite on having one Pakistan day parade on the streets of Manhattan? We have lost major territory before (Bangladesh) and it seems the government and army has not learned a single lesson from that experience. For them, every thing is under control until they have knocked our door.

Pakistan is hardly a democracy. The real power in that country is the military and our military aid has kept the power with the military behind the cover of the "democratic" government for years. Who she trying to kid?

I agree with Hillary. We (Pakistanis) need to speak out against the atrocities committed by the Taliban very forcefully.
Having said that, when outrage is expressed by Pak-Americans, it is never covered in the mainstream media. Only the crazy, fringe elements are given press coverage.
For example, there is a protest outside the Pakistani consulate on Wed. against the Taliban and the atrocities committed by them against woman.