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Negotiating Severance

Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Alan Sklover, senior partner of Sklover, Donath & Felber LLC, a law firm that represents employees and author of Fired, Downsized or Laid Off offers his insight on negotiating severance packages.

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Alan Sklover

Comments [22]

Ellen G from Queens, NY

If your NYC employer hands you a severance agreement and you ask (in a professional and non-angry) manner for changes to the agreement, do you risk losing everything? Or, does the mere fact that the employer presented the severance agreement mean that the agreement is on the table and therefore, up for discussion?

Dec. 06 2009 06:46 PM
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Marie from Manhattan

My husband, a journalist, was laid off from a major co. It was not for cause b/c they want to hire him back as a contract worker (lower pay and no benefits). Is that legal? There are intellectual property issues he needs to negotiate before he signs his severance agreement but the company says it never negotiates severance. Help.

Jun. 16 2009 11:49 AM
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Hugh from Brookyn

Michael Bloomberg's severance package -- in th 70s -- was $10 MILLION.

Don't lie by omission.

Jun. 16 2009 11:44 AM
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kaycee from manhattan

I was told, when I was let go [from a vary large corporate behemoth,] that they chose to let me go instead of the male employee who was at my same level, because I was single with no kids to support where as the male employee had a wife and family to support.

They also told me I was "more likely to land on [my] feet," whereas he was less likely to be able to easily find employment elsewhere!

I chose not to fight these [seemingly unreasonable] statements and accepted the somewhat generous severance agreement, rather than contest this action.
However, I often wonder if this was actually a case of discrimination that I could have fought?

For the record, yes I have landed on my feet and I have been successfully self employed since leaving that job.

Thanks

Jun. 16 2009 11:43 AM
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Rich from Staten Island

Are there any support groups in the area for people who were recently downsized to discuss this issue?

Jun. 16 2009 11:41 AM
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anonyme

HEY!!! Administrative assistants know a lot of secrets!!!Some severance is based on confidentiality agreements!

Jun. 16 2009 11:41 AM
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Tom

I'm wondering if he can address the question of long term, but temporary employment. I am in this position for over 2 years and they say they offer no severance when the job ends.

Jun. 16 2009 11:40 AM
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World's Toughest Milkman from X-nyc

This sounds all fine and good for very well structured corporate jobs but the reality that I found is that most jobs are "at will employment", and it's stated that you can be terminated at anytime and for any reason.

Also the company I used to work at is now using an "employment agency" of sorts that actually hires the employees and "leases" them to the facility I used to work at, another way they circumvent this; unfortuantely for me and several others.

Jun. 16 2009 11:40 AM
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Dano from Kearny, NJ

DURESS = forcible restraint or restriction benefit..."If you don't sign this you won't get benefits." In other words, they have you by the naughty bits...for the moment.

Jun. 16 2009 11:39 AM
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J from Ridgefield Park, NJ

MY girl friend was severed back in Nov. 2008 she was lucky to find a job through contacts at the company that she was leaving to get a job with a vendor of that said company. She was recently contacted by the old company that she owes them back some severance pay because she went to work for one of their vendor. Would thy have preferred her to be with out a job? Those she have to pay them back?

Jun. 16 2009 11:39 AM
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Paulo from Paterson, NJ

Honestly, how hard is it really to lay someone off with a little class and compassion? My friend, along with hundreds of others in his company, was laid off last summer. The company sent out secret memos to dozens of office managers who had no idea what was in them to be read aloud to their staff. So these managers are standing there reading and learning at the same time as their staff that they and everyone in hearing distance has just been let go. It got really ugly. Security had to be called in.

Jun. 16 2009 11:39 AM
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Pez from BKLYN

Is or should severence pay be directly related to performance grade? Can it be denied due to performance grade?

Jun. 16 2009 11:39 AM
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Rosemary McGinn

p.s. you have no RIGHT to severance.

Jun. 16 2009 11:37 AM
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Matt from UWS

How can you hold a threat to sue over an employer when you have an AT-WILL employment contract?
I thought that AT WILL meant they could fire you for anything...

Jun. 16 2009 11:37 AM
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Rosemary McGinn

The guest should explain that when the employer gives your money, you give something back - you sign something that says you will not sue, bad-mouth the employer, etc. People really don't realize that.

Jun. 16 2009 11:37 AM
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o-man from ny

how do non-compete clauses play into all this??

Jun. 16 2009 11:36 AM
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Ralph from Manhattan

In order to negotiate, I would have had to refuse to sign my severance contract with Merrill Lynch. Had ML not wanted to negotiate, they could have left me out in the cold with no severance whatsoever. Thus I could have found myself out by 54 weeks pay. An employment lawyer agreed with me that, while not likely, this was indeed a possibility.

Jun. 16 2009 11:35 AM
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jc from new york city

This is not quite related, but, is there a legal way to make a former employee to sign up paperwork proving experience in order to apply for a license?

Jun. 16 2009 11:34 AM
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em from nirvana

My employer's severence plan offers a certain number of weeks of pay based on service, but you must sign a release saying you won't sue them to get the money. Is that type of agreement binding?

Jun. 16 2009 11:33 AM
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Tony from San Jose, CA

What about arbitration? It is often biased toward the employer, so wouldn't it lower the power of severance.

Jun. 16 2009 11:29 AM
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KC from Manhattan

Do you really believe an Administrative Assistant has the same bargaining power as a Senior Vice President or Department Chair? Let's get real here. I suspect your tips are for a sliver of the population from a very specific socio-economic class and education level. 'Fess up!

Jun. 16 2009 10:09 AM
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Caitlin from Jersey City

Ok, I'm curious about this. If you've just been laid off, what exactly do you have to bargain with to get better (or any) severance pay? It's not like you can threaten to quit. Break down sobbing and hope they feel sorry for you? Pull a Fight Club and beat yourself up in the boss's office and promise not to sue if they give you a few extra weeks' pay?

Jun. 16 2009 10:07 AM
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