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Writing the Rules for Art World Etiquette

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Roger White and Dushko Petrovich, co-editors of the New York-based magazine Paper Monument, talk about "I Like Your Work: Art and Etiquette," a booklet on manners in the art world. What is your art-world unwritten rule? Anything about art world behavior you just don't get? Post your etiquette tips below!

Guests:

Dushko Petrovich and Roger White

Comments [20]

Robert from UWS

i don't believe the poop story - what's the artist's name?

Aug. 19 2009 09:52 AM
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gaetano catelli from manhattan

if you don't like my writing or my photographs, please lie and say that you do.

Aug. 18 2009 08:07 PM
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John Andrews from new york city

Actually I find the artist who pooped at his opening to have made a brilliant multilevel cultural commentary. It works both conceptually and as a gut level reaction. It is like giving birth to an idea that has been stewing inside you for a long time. The emptiness/loneliness you feel after a bowel movement is like having an art opening and having to part with you work and afterward you feel so exposed and yet exhilirated. I would like to see this work. Does anyone know of the artists name?

Aug. 18 2009 07:08 PM
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Dark Symbolist from NYC

sorry, you're not a "real artist" when you take a dump on a piece of paper and call that a work of art.

Let's start making art again instead of pretentious BS that is supposed to represent our "distaste" for the art world. Everyone does that in NYC...enough already, time to move on.

Aug. 18 2009 05:27 PM
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darryl from Brooklyn

Every real artist that I know, self-included, has a "deep distaste" for the art world. Closer to a seething hatred.

Dispite the stereotypes of the art world, most people--normal people--have an appreciation for the magic that skilled practicioners can make when they've mastered their craft.

If you want to be an artist, you have to roll up your sleeves and draw.

Aug. 18 2009 12:43 PM
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Taher from Croton on Hudson

What is really happening in the global art world is a sea shift. Nothing will be the same. After over 5o years of art as commodity, no matter how absurd the products were, is over.
The new etiquette will probably be “I am busted, disgusted and can not be trusted.”

Aug. 18 2009 11:50 AM
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anonyme

SHOOT! Did you now Wassily Kandinsky painted in a full suit? Also what happens to authenticity amid all this? What's the point if you have to go through all this crap - why not just get a job?

Aug. 18 2009 11:46 AM
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Heywood Jablom from new york city

why is there not a "cash for clunkers " program for all the bad art? It would make sense and support artists

Aug. 18 2009 11:45 AM
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Jen from Hell's Kitchen

I run an art company in its third year. We've done everything unconventionally, from affordable art auctions, art and fashion events, and private art shows. We love the shakeout because it brings art back to the broader populous while still leaving a space for quality and distinction. nascentartny.com

Aug. 18 2009 11:44 AM
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Voter from Brooklyn

Unlike in most parts of polite society, I think more hostility IS needed in the “art” world. There is so much BS out there that people need to come to their senses… It’s gotten to the point everything is “art” from feces on paper and banana peels on the floor (the New Museum) to infantile pornography (re Marlene Dumas). We need to stop coddling “artists” and promoting “concepts” and really look at content, technique, and skill. These people really do need a hard cold (figurative) slap to the face. (And realize pooping on paper cannot, will not and should not be able to pay your NYC rent)

Aug. 18 2009 11:43 AM
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mike

That joke I made is only half a joke. If the Government can spend a ton a money on bad accounting, why can't they spend some money on bad art in the hope that we get some truly good, lasting art in the process?

Aug. 18 2009 11:41 AM
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Terri from TriBeCa

My father-in-law, the playwright SN Behrman had a great response when confronted after plays he had witnessed that he thought were not-so great to awful: "What an evening!"

non committal and polite! Can't beat it!

-Best,
Terri Hanlon

Aug. 18 2009 11:41 AM
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Dark Symbolist from NYC

"His deep distaste for the art world" OHHHH PUHLEASE! It was in a gallery...if he really hated the art world so much he would do it outside in public where he could have been promptly arrested.

I am SO sick of this stupid trend in the New York scene of artists who create art that is a "critique" of the art world...as they cash in from the art world. Let this stupid trend die already. these "artists" are like Republicans who supposedly hate government...yet do everything and anything to try and be in power.

Speaking as an artist myself, you should have told him he was a pretentious moron and that to call himself an "artist" was a stretch at best.

Aug. 18 2009 11:41 AM
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Clif from Manhattan (work)

I'm a musician and I can't stand it when people come up and say how great my set was, when they clearly didn't really feel that way. I appreciate honesty. If you didn't like it, either don't say anything or tell me what you really think. This type of mannerism is indicative of our superficial culture where we always want eerything to be good, positive and rosey.

I think it's time we grow up and learn how to deal with people who have different views and tastes.

Aug. 18 2009 11:40 AM
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mike

The proper response, as an accountant, would be that's what they call a mortgage-backed security, and then question why there isn't more Government support for the arts.

Aug. 18 2009 11:38 AM
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James from Midtown

@Heywood: The correct response for you is that it's not for you. More broadly, if an artist puts work out publicly, the artist exposes themselves to public response and must develop the requisite thick skin. If the artist doesn't want that kind of response, they should employ a proxy and cut themselves off from feedback, but that's the artist's choice.

Aug. 18 2009 11:38 AM
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Inquisigal from Brooklyn, NY

Most people are really intimidated when they go to a gallery or exhibition, because they think they need to behave a certain way. I'm a fine art photographer, and wish people would be more real - both on the consumer side and the creative side - when it comes to art. For example, instead of a mindless "I like your work," I like when people ask me what my process is, or where something I made came from. When I go to galleries or exhibitions, I am always disheartened by the ridiculous, abstract, meaningless artist statements posted to describe an artist's work, and I think this is where many people are put off.

Aug. 18 2009 11:37 AM
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Heywood Jablom from new york city

well the paper that they gave out said "an expression of his deep distaste for the artworld and a sense of loss" But I feel it is not only a crime against art but a crime against God. We are from the same village and I tell him that it will make difficulties for him to find wife and he said "I don't care"

Aug. 18 2009 11:28 AM
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NKH from harlem

pooping on a piece of paper? really? why are people supporting this? it's ridiculous how accepting people are of things that take place inside the walls of a gallery. if someone pooped on a piece of paper anywhere else they'd be dismissed as a lunatic. Proper art-world behavior is to pretend like you "get it" when no one truly does.

Aug. 18 2009 10:55 AM
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Heywood Jablom from new york city

I was recently at a show of a friend who is just graduated from art school. He was in show of group in the Chelsea District of New York. I am not familiar with current practices because I am accountant. But my friend did performance where he made excrement on a paper in front of everyone and they had an auction for it. I feel only revulsion and no understanding and when he ask me later what I have thoughts, I could only say it was good to be polite. I am interested in what is proper response.

Aug. 18 2009 10:05 AM
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