The report from the Justice Department's inspector general reveals a conflict between governmental agencies on the issue of handling detainees. Washington Post reporter Carrie Johnson explains the internal strife.
I urge anyone intersted in this subject to go out immediatly and buy (and read) Darius Rejali book "Torture and Democracy". It should be used as the basis of a required course at all law schools and law enforcement schools. He's studied torturers of the past 100 years from the USSR to the Seattle Police Department and their techniques, why the tortured and how they stopped. Brian: You should have him on as a guest to comment on this subject as it continues to develop. An understanding of this issue by citizens of free countrys requires what Renjali has called "torture literacy". He hopes to get citizens to take steps necessary to minimize torture around the word by first educating them on where specific torture techniques are developed and why they are employed and to what purpose. Most contemporary torture uses non-scarring methods have their origins in democracies and were developed to achieve specific law enforcement outcomes. Torture is very un-reliable for gaining actionable intelligence and is most often used to terrorize a person / population or to extract a bogus confession that can then be used for law ennforcement or political purposes. It has a very corrosive effect on law enforcement in general. Ironically, if anything, it makes the very damaging Abu Ghraib incident (or the part I read about)look like an amateur operation. As Renjali asserts, torture is a craft (not science) that is learned on the job. Enough said..read the book.
Yes of course we're all for the soldiers even if we aren't for the war. But with the percentage of people against it rising you can't expect all to be able to make the distinction between "honouring" and "approving".
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I urge anyone intersted in this subject to go out immediatly and buy (and read) Darius Rejali book "Torture and Democracy". It should be used as the basis of a required course at all law schools and law enforcement schools. He's studied torturers of the past 100 years from the USSR to the Seattle Police Department and their techniques, why the tortured and how they stopped. Brian: You should have him on as a guest to comment on this subject as it continues to develop. An understanding of this issue by citizens of free countrys requires what Renjali has called "torture literacy". He hopes to get citizens to take steps necessary to minimize torture around the word by first educating them on where specific torture techniques are developed and why they are employed and to what purpose. Most contemporary torture uses non-scarring methods have their origins in democracies and were developed to achieve specific law enforcement outcomes. Torture is very un-reliable for gaining actionable intelligence and is most often used to terrorize a person / population or to extract a bogus confession that can then be used for law ennforcement or political purposes. It has a very corrosive effect on law enforcement in general. Ironically, if anything, it makes the very damaging Abu Ghraib incident (or the part I read about)look like an amateur operation. As Renjali asserts, torture is a craft (not science) that is learned on the job. Enough said..read the book.
Yes of course we're all for the soldiers even if
we aren't for the war. But with the percentage of people against it rising you can't expect all to be able to make the distinction between "honouring" and "approving".
this fits into the new winnter soldier movement also. chilling
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/may/22/amy-goodman-viewpoint-winter-soldier-marches/
When obfuscation is the real goal, how are members of various agencies and departments supposed to know what's going on?
DISCLAIMER: To all agents monitoring this board, I am a loyal American. God bless George W. Bush.
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