Sheila, someone describing themselves as a Liberal and judging people by their appearance is counterintuitive. It's a Republican way of thinking. Touché. You are a sexist. The worst kind.I was furious to hear this. Women like you are the reason I have to fight twice as hard in my career as well as in my academic pursuits to get forward. I am pretty and I am gosh darn smart and I am also 12 years younger than my husband. Did it ever cross your mind, Sheila, that maybe those beautiful women that tick you off so much actually don't only have the looks, but have the 'whole package'? I know. That must be very upsetting to you. Sorry.
Jan. 25 2008 08:12 PM
Score: 0/0
Chris O
from New York
Brian's bias is transparent: If you support Hillary, he is biased in favor of Obama. If you support Obama, he is biased in favor of Hillary. And if you support Edwards or Kucinich, then you have a real complaint.
Jan. 25 2008 01:15 PM
Score: 0/0
Andrew
from Corona, Queens, NY
The last caller was just ridiculous. Blithely calling Elizabeth Kucinich a "trophy wife" was quite instructive, as the caller is disappointingly focusing on something completely irrelevant. Mrs. Kucinich has done a lot of humanitarian work and her appearance should not overshadow her hard work. Beauty for a woman in the public eye is equated with something shameful. Get over yourself. Unless the candidate is sitting at home buffing his/her nails instead of discussing the economy, abortion, and the fighting in Iraq, there is no justification to discredit the candidate as incapable of leading a country. If a man who is considered handsome ran for president, it would not be met with jeers and disdain. I do not particularly like Kucinich but considering the candidates by such frivolous terms is upsetting.
Jan. 25 2008 12:52 PM
Score: 0/0
Anna Banks
from Soho
Something tells me AIPAC is terrified of Obama.
Jan. 25 2008 12:21 PM
Score: 0/0
ab
I'm not sure how anyone can see Brian as pro Obama considering that he's always doing pieces slanted about Obama's message and things that could be deemed "contradictory" and we have YET to hear one focused on Hillary and her dirty politics and contradictions (of which there are many)
Very pro-Hillary as far as I can see. I agree with the above comment...just endorse her already and get over it and stop pretending you are impartial...it's a joke!
Jan. 25 2008 12:10 PM
Score: 0/0
ab
Chestine,
Thank you!!! I mean Bush thinks god speaks to him directly and wanted him to be president. and the difference between this and seeing a UFO is?
Actually...if he just claims he saw an object he couldn't identify (the real meaning of the term) that doesn't immediately mean "aliens" and sounds more reasonable than Bush!
Jan. 25 2008 12:07 PM
Score: 0/0
Joan
from Manhattan
Kucinich will be speaking at the 92nd St Y on Jan 29th. I am one of those who agrees with all of his stands (that I know of). We need his voice in this country - to get us out of Iraq, create a Dept of Peace, etc. I even supported impeachment, however given that it could backfire and create sympathy for Bush and take away from current discussion of critical issues and substantive policy making, I can back off of it. Our Constitution and the balance of powers are in trouble.
Finally, re: the economy, the daily cost of the Iraq war is the elephant in the room that none of the pundits seem to link with our current/impending recession. As the Mayor says, infrastructural investment has been sorely lacking and our lingering in Iraq makes any remedial measure improbable. Meanwhile, we cut the education of the future leaders of our country! So, I am looking for someone who makes sense, and Kucinich did.
Jan. 25 2008 12:06 PM
Score: 0/0
chestine
from NY
I thought Brian was pro Barack
Jan. 25 2008 12:04 PM
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Jon P.
from Hewitt, NJ
I agree 100% with the very first comment from Robert. Sure, NPR has recently talked about Obama and some of the other candidates. That being said, I listen to NPR all day long and all I ever hear about is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary…. When is NPR going to officially come and back Hillary? Or did I miss that official announcement?
Jan. 25 2008 12:03 PM
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Anonymous
Who cares if his wife is pretty? I don't get all the focus on that. And just because she's beautiful doesn't mean she's not smart and that they don't have a real connection. Maybe that is sappy and/or naive but I thought that caller just sounded a little bit bitter. So typical of what Tina Fey calls "girl-on-girl crime" - very sad.
I've always thought Brian was in love with Obama. Either way, he's been shamefully dismissive of Kucinich all along.
The loss of Kucinich as a Presidential candidate is a blow to REAL Democrats everywhere.
Jan. 25 2008 12:03 PM
Score: 0/0
Jeffrey Slott
from East Elmhurst
To Mr. Dias: Again the tired old argument that Nader lost the election for Gore...
Jan. 25 2008 12:01 PM
Score: 0/0
hjs
from 11211
waste of air time. sorry
Jan. 25 2008 12:00 PM
Score: 0/0
chestine
from NY
what's the difference between a ufo and "my father in heaven" or whomever it was Bush listens to who is not his father...
Jan. 25 2008 11:59 AM
Score: 0/0
Louisa
from brooklyn
That woman who just called in is a sexist. She is viewing Kucinich's relevance as a politician purely on the basis of his wife's looks. This is a sentiment worthy of the Rat Pack at it's most over the top.
Jan. 25 2008 11:59 AM
Score: 0/0
Anna Banks
from Soho
He and Mike Gravel are the only two Democratic candidates that are for full equality for Gay people.
Hillary, Obama and Edwards are only for Civil Unions which do not offer the same rights as marriage.
Democrats that do not support equality are an embarrassment.
Funny to point out the UFO, but not the problems with Clinton, Obama on this issue which means more.
Jan. 25 2008 11:58 AM
Score: 0/0
Robert
from NYC
Ask Sheila to send in a photo of herself so we can judge her. So this is how she votes for a president. Amazing.
Jan. 25 2008 11:58 AM
Score: 0/0
ab
#10
Well Gravel is a joke but Kucinich had a real message. Brian is very very transparently pro-Hillary and so it's not surprising he dismissed Kucinich as someone trying to push a message.
Hey, at least he HAS a message one unlike the race-baiting, I have a natural born right to be president, dirty tactics using Hillary Clinton. An intentionally polarizing candidate for a radio host who claims he values bringing people of differing views together.
Jan. 25 2008 11:56 AM
Score: 0/0
Robert
from NYC
Gossip? Gossip? Tsk, tsk, tsk. This is the problem.
Jan. 25 2008 11:56 AM
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Aaron Dias
from Nyack, NY
In response to the woman who just phoned in and said that she doesn't understand why one would vote for someone electable as opposed to someone who they believe represents their views most closely, I ask: Did we learn nothing from the Gore/Bush/Nader debacle?! If those that had voted for Nader had gotten behind Gore, we could avoided the UNBELIEVABLE messes that ensued once we opened the door to this disastrous administration.
Jan. 25 2008 11:56 AM
Score: 0/0
Robert
from NYC
Of course the others in congress avoid him, he's poison to their lobbyist supporters.
Jan. 25 2008 11:54 AM
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Jeffrey Slott
from East Elmhurst
This is so disgusting. This segment is turning out to be the only time NYC has bothered to focus on Kucinich for more than five minutes. And of course, what a time to do so. All of a sudden we're getting thrown in our faces all the reasons Kucinich failed. His actual ideas are getting short shrift and, since he's no longer in the running, probably never will merit your dopey station's proper attention
Jan. 25 2008 11:54 AM
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Robert
from NYC
You are so right about what everybody wants and what they do. Excellent point.
Jan. 25 2008 11:51 AM
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David
from Washington Heights
I grew up in Cleveland while Kucinich was mayor, when Cleveland went into default, and I always wonder why the never comes up in the national campaign--either as a negative ("Kucinich led Cleveland into default") or positive ("Kucinich was a young politician willing to take a risk and run for Mayor while Cleveland was headed for default, and he turned the city around after it was led downhill during the Perk administration").
Jan. 25 2008 11:50 AM
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ab
The party leaders didn't think that was a good idea because both Reid and Pelosi are base cowards.
Impeachment would be the RIGHT thing to do..I cannot see how what Bush/Cheney and their fellow neo-con thugs did doesn't deserve impeachment. If they don't deserve impeachment then NOONE EVER does and impeachment is meaningless.
Jan. 25 2008 11:49 AM
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patrick
from queens
I put a list of candidate positions without names in front of a class of 18 year olds. All, interestingly, chose Kucinich's views. None, even knew who Kucinich was. Something to think about.
Jan. 25 2008 11:46 AM
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Robert
from NYC
I think we have one right here in NYC who I think thinks very similarly to Kucinich if not like Kucinich. No names because I don't want to make claims for other people via my perceptions of them.
Jan. 25 2008 11:45 AM
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Ryan
from Flatbush, Brooklyn, NY
I think Dennis has been the only candidate who is not corrupted by the influence of corporate ideology. He is a real progressive in terms of peace, gender, race, class, and environment. And probably the most significant thing we can say about Dennis is that he is the only candidate who talks about withdrawing from the WTO, which is arguably the most destructive force in the world today. So it is no surprise that the corporate media (ala CNN and NBC) has excluded him from the spotlight. And now the sad result is that he is withdrawing from the presidential race.
Jan. 25 2008 11:45 AM
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Chad Harris
from Ridgewood
Typical of Brian to ADMIT he dismissed Dennis as someone just trying to push a message.
It's just disgusting. This station and Brian are Pro-Hillary.
Mike Gravel is STILL running!
Can someone say Dennis was RIGHT on the war, on Iran the first time. He pushed impeachment, who will stand for the people in this country?
Jan. 25 2008 11:44 AM
Score: 0/0
chestine
from NY
The idea of a Minister of Peace is way ahead of the USA, no matter what else he says. Think Ghandi and MLK - we are dunderheads by comparison uf we don't support the concept of a Dept of Peace.
Jan. 25 2008 11:43 AM
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Seth
from Astoria
I'm upset. We need him to keep on going no matter what. He has consistantly said what appeals to me, even though I like Edwards, I want to hear the real ideals, not just the talk of them. I hate how "the little guy" doesn't get a viable nod. People just vote for the name they hear the most, and right now that's Obama or Clinton. My only hope now is that Kucinich joins Edwards, and we have a ticket in November that is worth voting for. Dennis, don't shift your support to Obama, endorse Edwards by being his running mate.
Jan. 25 2008 11:42 AM
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Joshua
from Manhattan
Can his wife still run for first lady?
please
Jan. 25 2008 11:37 AM
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Robert
from NYC
Hear! Hear! Robert (another one). I couldn't have said it better myself (I mean it, I couldn't have said it better nor as well, frankly.) I at times thought I was the only person who felt this way.
Jan. 25 2008 11:20 AM
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Robert (another one)
from Chelsea
Congressman Kucinich has consistently, and often solely raised the issues that matter to most to me and the people I know. It is a disgrace that he was marginalized in the debates. When he was allowed in, and to actually speak, he was the most engaging candidate with the best ideas: the real agent for the greatest change, and, someone who's record is consistent with his publicly stated positions. How refreshing.
He has a history of defying the powers that be, often at great political and personal cost. Today, ask the people of Cleveland if they like owning their municipal power company. As Mayor of Cleveland, he stood up to the biggest bank in the city who attempted to force the sale. When he wouldn't, they refused to roll over ordinary city debt, forcing the city into bankruptcy and severely hurting the image of the city and Mayor Kucinich, ...but the citizens of Cleveland kept their power company and much later on he was recognized for his bravery in that situation, even though it cost him the next election.
I had hoped to see him in at least another debate and to vote for him in the New York Primary. I will miss his insight, his input, his leadership, and his scrappiness.
Keep fighting, Dennis!
Jan. 25 2008 10:35 AM
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hjs
from 11211
i hope this is a short segment!!
hey chad, i thought less people listen on monday, a holiday, the show talked about obama that day
Jan. 25 2008 10:27 AM
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Chad Harris
from Ridgewood,
I love how he was last on this list, and on Friday when less people listen. WNYC has done nothing but bury him and the other candidates.
Believe it or not Mike Gravel is STILL in the race. WNYC not covering him alone is bias. It's just disgusting.
Jan. 25 2008 10:06 AM
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Ardee
from NYC
Great points Robert, I agree 100%!
I think a LARGE part of blame should also be placed on the two major parties since in many cases the less viable candidates tend to bow out early to stay clear of the wrath of their respective parties.
I believe pressure should also be placed on our respective elected representatives to at least hold meetings on a potential national popular election.
Jan. 25 2008 09:47 AM
Score: 0/0
Robert
from NYC
Why? He was completely ignored by the media and kept out of just about everything, that's why. Kucinich has pulled out and I will probably never vote again after almost 40 years of not missing a single election including the very minor ones. It's all a prefabricated deal, what with media's exclusionist policy and that silly and outdated Electoral College, the individual voter's vote does not carry much weight if any at all! Sometimes I think it is just a "appeasement" handout like, oh, let's see, handing tax payers a few hundred bucks appeasement payoff, "here kid, go buy some candy and be happy."
Jan. 25 2008 09:22 AM
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Sheila, someone describing themselves as a Liberal and judging people by their appearance is counterintuitive. It's a Republican way of thinking. Touché. You are a sexist. The worst kind.I was furious to hear this. Women like you are the reason I have to fight twice as hard in my career as well as in my academic pursuits to get forward. I am pretty and I am gosh darn smart and I am also 12 years younger than my husband.
Did it ever cross your mind, Sheila, that maybe those beautiful women that tick you off so much actually don't only have the looks, but have the 'whole package'? I know. That must be very upsetting to you. Sorry.
Brian's bias is transparent: If you support Hillary, he is biased in favor of Obama. If you support Obama, he is biased in favor of Hillary. And if you support Edwards or Kucinich, then you have a real complaint.
The last caller was just ridiculous. Blithely calling Elizabeth Kucinich a "trophy wife" was quite instructive, as the caller is disappointingly focusing on something completely irrelevant. Mrs. Kucinich has done a lot of humanitarian work and her appearance should not overshadow her hard work. Beauty for a woman in the public eye is equated with something shameful. Get over yourself. Unless the candidate is sitting at home buffing his/her nails instead of discussing the economy, abortion, and the fighting in Iraq, there is no justification to discredit the candidate as incapable of leading a country. If a man who is considered handsome ran for president, it would not be met with jeers and disdain. I do not particularly like Kucinich but considering the candidates by such frivolous terms is upsetting.
Something tells me AIPAC is terrified of Obama.
I'm not sure how anyone can see Brian as pro Obama considering that he's always doing pieces slanted about Obama's message and things that could be deemed "contradictory" and we have YET to hear one focused on Hillary and her dirty politics and contradictions (of which there are many)
Very pro-Hillary as far as I can see. I agree with the above comment...just endorse her already and get over it and stop pretending you are impartial...it's a joke!
Chestine,
Thank you!!! I mean Bush thinks god speaks to him directly and wanted him to be president. and the difference between this and seeing a UFO is?
Actually...if he just claims he saw an object he couldn't identify (the real meaning of the term) that doesn't immediately mean "aliens" and sounds more reasonable than Bush!
Kucinich will be speaking at the 92nd St Y on Jan 29th. I am one of those who agrees with all of his stands (that I know of). We need his voice in this country - to get us out of Iraq, create a Dept of Peace, etc. I even supported impeachment, however given that it could backfire and create sympathy for Bush and take away from current discussion of critical issues and substantive policy making, I can back off of it. Our Constitution and the balance of powers are in trouble.
Finally, re: the economy, the daily cost of the Iraq war is the elephant in the room that none of the pundits seem to link with our current/impending recession. As the Mayor says, infrastructural investment has been sorely lacking and our lingering in Iraq makes any remedial measure improbable. Meanwhile, we cut the education of the future leaders of our country! So, I am looking for someone who makes sense, and Kucinich did.
I thought Brian was pro Barack
I agree 100% with the very first comment from Robert. Sure, NPR has recently talked about Obama and some of the other candidates. That being said, I listen to NPR all day long and all I ever hear about is Hillary, Hillary, Hillary…. When is NPR going to officially come and back Hillary? Or did I miss that official announcement?
Who cares if his wife is pretty? I don't get all the focus on that. And just because she's beautiful doesn't mean she's not smart and that they don't have a real connection. Maybe that is sappy and/or naive but I thought that caller just sounded a little bit bitter. So typical of what Tina Fey calls "girl-on-girl crime" - very sad.
I've always thought Brian was in love with Obama. Either way, he's been shamefully dismissive of Kucinich all along.
The loss of Kucinich as a Presidential candidate is a blow to REAL Democrats everywhere.
To Mr. Dias:
Again the tired old argument that Nader lost the election for Gore...
waste of air time. sorry
what's the difference between a ufo and "my father in heaven" or whomever it was Bush listens to who is not his father...
That woman who just called in is a sexist. She is viewing Kucinich's relevance as a politician purely on the basis of his wife's looks. This is a sentiment worthy of the Rat Pack at it's most over the top.
He and Mike Gravel are the only two Democratic candidates that are for full equality for Gay people.
Hillary, Obama and Edwards are only for Civil Unions which do not offer the same rights as marriage.
Democrats that do not support equality are an embarrassment.
Funny to point out the UFO, but not the problems with Clinton, Obama on this issue which means more.
Ask Sheila to send in a photo of herself so we can judge her. So this is how she votes for a president. Amazing.
#10
Well Gravel is a joke but Kucinich had a real message. Brian is very very transparently pro-Hillary and so it's not surprising he dismissed Kucinich as someone trying to push a message.
Hey, at least he HAS a message one unlike the race-baiting, I have a natural born right to be president, dirty tactics using Hillary Clinton. An intentionally polarizing candidate for a radio host who claims he values bringing people of differing views together.
Gossip? Gossip? Tsk, tsk, tsk. This is the problem.
In response to the woman who just phoned in and said that she doesn't understand why one would vote for someone electable as opposed to someone who they believe represents their views most closely, I ask: Did we learn nothing from the Gore/Bush/Nader debacle?! If those that had voted for Nader had gotten behind Gore, we could avoided the UNBELIEVABLE messes that ensued once we opened the door to this disastrous administration.
Of course the others in congress avoid him, he's poison to their lobbyist supporters.
This is so disgusting. This segment is turning out to be the only time NYC has bothered to focus on Kucinich for more than five minutes. And of course, what a time to do so. All of a sudden we're getting thrown in our faces all the reasons Kucinich failed. His actual ideas are getting short shrift and, since he's no longer in the running, probably never will merit your dopey station's proper attention
You are so right about what everybody wants and what they do. Excellent point.
I grew up in Cleveland while Kucinich was mayor, when Cleveland went into default, and I always wonder why the never comes up in the national campaign--either as a negative ("Kucinich led Cleveland into default") or positive ("Kucinich was a young politician willing to take a risk and run for Mayor while Cleveland was headed for default, and he turned the city around after it was led downhill during the Perk administration").
The party leaders didn't think that was a good idea because both Reid and Pelosi are base cowards.
Impeachment would be the RIGHT thing to do..I cannot see how what Bush/Cheney and their fellow neo-con thugs did doesn't deserve impeachment. If they don't deserve impeachment then NOONE EVER does and impeachment is meaningless.
I put a list of candidate positions without names in front of a class of 18 year olds. All, interestingly, chose Kucinich's views. None, even knew who Kucinich was. Something to think about.
I think we have one right here in NYC who I think thinks very similarly to Kucinich if not like Kucinich. No names because I don't want to make claims for other people via my perceptions of them.
I think Dennis has been the only candidate who is not corrupted by the influence of corporate ideology. He is a real progressive in terms of peace, gender, race, class, and environment. And probably the most significant thing we can say about Dennis is that he is the only candidate who talks about withdrawing from the WTO, which is arguably the most destructive force in the world today. So it is no surprise that the corporate media (ala CNN and NBC) has excluded him from the spotlight. And now the sad result is that he is withdrawing from the presidential race.
Typical of Brian to ADMIT he dismissed Dennis as someone just trying to push a message.
It's just disgusting. This station and Brian are Pro-Hillary.
Mike Gravel is STILL running!
Can someone say Dennis was RIGHT on the war, on Iran the first time. He pushed impeachment, who will stand for the people in this country?
The idea of a Minister of Peace is way ahead of the USA, no matter what else he says. Think Ghandi and MLK - we are dunderheads by comparison uf we don't support the concept of a Dept of Peace.
I'm upset. We need him to keep on going no matter what. He has consistantly said what appeals to me, even though I like Edwards, I want to hear the real ideals, not just the talk of them. I hate how "the little guy" doesn't get a viable nod. People just vote for the name they hear the most, and right now that's Obama or Clinton. My only hope now is that Kucinich joins Edwards, and we have a ticket in November that is worth voting for. Dennis, don't shift your support to Obama, endorse Edwards by being his running mate.
Can his wife still run for first lady?
please
Hear! Hear! Robert (another one). I couldn't have said it better myself (I mean it, I couldn't have said it better nor as well, frankly.) I at times thought I was the only person who felt this way.
Congressman Kucinich has consistently, and often solely raised the issues that matter to most to me and the people I know. It is a disgrace that he was marginalized in the debates. When he was allowed in, and to actually speak, he was the most engaging candidate with the best ideas: the real agent for the greatest change, and, someone who's record is consistent with his publicly stated positions. How refreshing.
He has a history of defying the powers that be, often at great political and personal cost. Today, ask the people of Cleveland if they like owning their municipal power company. As Mayor of Cleveland, he stood up to the biggest bank in the city who attempted to force the sale. When he wouldn't, they refused to roll over ordinary city debt, forcing the city into bankruptcy and severely hurting the image of the city and Mayor Kucinich, ...but the citizens of Cleveland kept their power company and much later on he was recognized for his bravery in that situation, even though it cost him the next election.
I had hoped to see him in at least another debate and to vote for him in the New York Primary. I will miss his insight, his input, his leadership, and his scrappiness.
Keep fighting, Dennis!
i hope this is a short segment!!
hey chad, i thought less people listen on monday, a holiday, the show talked about obama that day
I love how he was last on this list, and on Friday when less people listen. WNYC has done nothing but bury him and the other candidates.
Believe it or not Mike Gravel is STILL in the race. WNYC not covering him alone is bias. It's just disgusting.
Great points Robert, I agree 100%!
I think a LARGE part of blame should also be placed on the two major parties since in many cases the less viable candidates tend to bow out early to stay clear of the wrath of their respective parties.
I believe pressure should also be placed on our respective elected representatives to at least hold meetings on a potential national popular election.
Why? He was completely ignored by the media and kept out of just about everything, that's why. Kucinich has pulled out and I will probably never vote again after almost 40 years of not missing a single election including the very minor ones. It's all a prefabricated deal, what with media's exclusionist policy and that silly and outdated Electoral College, the individual voter's vote does not carry much weight if any at all! Sometimes I think it is just a "appeasement" handout like, oh, let's see, handing tax payers a few hundred bucks appeasement payoff, "here kid, go buy some candy and be happy."
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