What a big surprise? I bet Carrion did not have to beg for his wings... Imagine if Bloomberg and his administration working just as hard for the public as they did for that luxury box and the “wings”.. The local community is still reeling from their alienated parklands and taxpayers should be more than upset that their taxpayer money is wasted on subsidizing several aspects of the project and paying Bloomberg and his collection of cronies. If you really want some of the best information concerning the Yankee stadium debacle.Highly recommend http://www.goodjobsny.org/yankeestadium_news.htm
#25 hjs the team leaving the city. where would they go? the yankees are the richest team in baseball, so much so they help to subsidize other teams. it's a ripoff of the taxpayers and middle class
Norman from NYC: Thank you for the suggestion. I will buy the book. I just looked at the PDF on the link you provided.
Too bad that our 'local' papers and TV stations do not cover this.
Professional sports franchises have city officials wrapped around their greedy fingers. Luxury suites are the tip of the iceberg. The true scandal is that these new stadiums were not needed. The situation is disgraceful. The Mets and Yankees have committed highway robbery against NY. Millions of feeble minded, uninformed NYers have been deceived by the Mets and Yankees with the help of WFAN and other sports media.
The team wouldn't leave the city; that's an idle threat. They have the largest media base in the US right now; if they moved to Portland, how could they ever make their payroll? That's one of those "threats" where both sides of the "negotiation" wink when it comes up. It wasn't intended to scare the city government, because they know it's nonsense. It was to scare the fans into not asking questions. That's all.
leowasn't there talk of the team leaving the city?
Here's the link to deMaus' spreadsheet of subsidies for the Yanks and Meds stadiums.
Ridiculous issues of the rich.
What about the hours and hours of city officials' time over several months devoted to this situation? What is THAT worth in lost productivity for us, the citizens?
This report is brilliant -
To hjs from 11211: What does corruption and handing subsidies to a very wealthy franchise have to do with being a first class city?
The City could have worked with the private teams to build them a stadium and funding public transit project to make it easier for City and suburbanite fans to travel to the stadiums. The subsidies and back room deals do not help us to be a first class city. These are very profitable franchises PRECISELY because they are located in NYC.
Um...the only "tension" between City Hall and the Yankees is over how to divvy up the benefits of the tax money they illegally liberated from us to build their stadium. I still feel pretty comfortable seeing this as a "cabal".
So what if they don't know what they're going to do with the box? This is a one-time chance to lease this box, if the city doesn't get it, it will go to someone else.
Someone in the city knew that they would be able to use the box in the future, and they want to seal the deal before someone else gets the contract on that box.
The city needs to attract talented employees and entertain important people. What's wrong with using a box for that?
@Dean Bell - exactly. Why are my tax dollars going to the Steinbrenners? If cuts need to be made, can't we start with projects like this?
Can WNYC perform a PUBLIC service and provide taxpayers with a detailed accounting of how much money was given in concessions and subsidies to the Yankees
deMause gave exactly such an accounting. He posted a PDF file on one of his web sites.
Leo, you should buy deMause's book.
Maybe Brian should have deMause on the program.
when will they learn. USE the phone, no paper trail!
BILL MOYERS: Why aren't the fans and tax payers giving the Yankees a Bronx Cheer? They are. But city officials rolled over them while making sure local politicians stay in the line up. The pols are getting their own luxury suite at the new stadium for free and first shot at buying the best available seats.
And so this Sunday evening we will bid farewell to dear old Yankee Stadium, and await the new colossus to rise from its ruins. It will cast its majestic shadow across one of the country's poorest neighborhoods, whose residents will watch from the outside as suburban drivers avail themselves of 9,000 new or refurbished parking spaces. Never mind all the exhaust, even though in this part of town respiratory disease is already so high they call it "asthma alley."
Not that the well-to-do in the infield seats will have to hear that wheezing. They'll have access to a private club, a private entrance and a private elevator. Totems of this Gilded Age. Let the games begin.
Can these be posted here? I'd love to have them available to read when and if I get nauseous and can't vomit, they would help.
Why should the City and State give the Yankees half a billion dollars in subsidies in the first place?
Here's a link to the web site of Neil deMause http://www.fieldofschemes.com/ who wrote a book, Field of Schemes: How the Great Stadium Swindle Turns Public Money into Private Profit.
deMause argues that subsidies of sports teams around the country are an outrageous subsidy in which the government gives public money to the wealthiest private investors, at the ezpense of legitimate public servcies like education, libraries, housing, hospitals and welfare.
I am so freaking sick of ridiculous perks for City employees. Did you know that city emplyees at a manager level get Poland Springs bottled water delivered to their offices, as well as city-owned vehicles that they are allowed to drive to work and park for free? Ridiculous! As well as not in the spirit of environmental conservation, which Bloomberg seems to be so big on!
What is frustrating about this 'economic' projects pushed by the Bloomberg administration and the corrupt mafia-like business community is that what passes as the local media and press in the city have refused to cover these projects by asking simple questions and providing facts to the voters and taxpayers so that we would know if these deals were real benefits for the City in the long term or if these have just been handouts given to politically connected and wealthy individuals.
do we want to live in a first class city or not
The City should ask the Yankees to give back the tax breaks in parity with the budget cuts the Mayor is asking for. That suite should be rented out as a revenue producer.
Oh my god, I cant believe this!! I'm taken aback, such sleaziness. My goodness. It can't be true, it just can't be true. No, I don't accept it.
Brian, can you ask as to what happened to the parks taken away from the community for the stadium which were supposed to be replaced with other parks in other parts of the Bronx? - Has this happened?
This issue makes me seeth! Why are the taxpayers picking up the tab for this stadium and the new Shea Stadium? The citizens of the Bronx still don't have their parks back. Bloomberg has trade public assets for private gain! Voters should run this mayor out of town!
Bill Moyers had a great essay on his "Journal" show about Yankee Stadium as late-stage end-of-empire excess.
Bloomberg is the most corrupt mayor in New York City history.
He is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
He valued the land used to build Yankee stadium at $250 a square foot when it was valued at $18.
This is fraud and he should be impeached.
The Yankees and Mets have the most expensive payrolls of all baseball teams. The difference with most other cities is Obscene. These teams can be very profitable just by reducing their payroll by a tiny percent while paying their fair share of taxes and the fair market value for the park land and parking garages given to them.
Can WNYC perform a PUBLIC service and provide taxpayers with a detailed accounting of how much money was given in concessions and subsidies to the Yankees and which developers and business 'leaders' in the Bloomberg administration benefited from the new stadiums for the Mets and Yankees? No one discusses the fact that the taxpayers in the South Bronx were short changes on parks and playgrounds as this land was given to the Yankees for parking. Which it seems now was given in exchange for a luxury box to be used by politically connected individuals. It would also be nice to know how much money NYC taxpayers will be losing due to the leases and tax subsidies to these teams.
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