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Following up: "Persistent Conflict"

Friday, November 16, 2007

Colonel Sam Gardiner, a retired Air Force colonel who has taught strategy and military operations at the National War College, joins us to follow up on some things we heard from the vice chief of staff Richard Cody on the Veterans Day program.

Guests:

Col. Sam Gardiner

Comments [7]

J.C. from Minneapolis

I think the important thing to remember about this warning about perpetual war is that it'll only come to pass if we vote in leaders who take us into more unnecessary conflicts. Remember that it is the civilian leadership who controls the armed forces in this country, so our votes for president and Congress are going to determine whether we go to war.

I suspect any military officials who predict more military engagements by the U.S. post-Iraq are not necessarily being warmongers in any way. Instead, they're trying to predict what future presidents will try to do with the armed forces (and what future Congresses will let those presidents get away with). So, even though this prediction of "perpetual war" came from a U.S. Army official, we should keep in mind that our votes in 2008 and beyond will decide whether that prediction will come true.

Nov. 16 2007 11:28 AM
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Matt W. from Brooklyn

An important issue but the only "shock" is that the vice chief of staff would admit to this. Given the way this war has been defined, "two to three decades" is an under-estimation to say the least. Have a look at Mark Danner's piece "The Forever War" on the NYT site, or Slavoj Žižek's "Are we in a war? Do we have an enemy?" available on the London Review of Books site.

Nov. 16 2007 11:23 AM
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Paul from Brooklyn

Brian, please read a book called The Creature From Jekyll Island, by G. Edward Griffan. You will not regret it, I promise this.

Nov. 16 2007 11:21 AM
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Paul from Brooklyn

Do you guys think Brian knows about the influence of the central banking cabal? If so, why does he continue to look at every issue at a micro level? Why is he afraid of addressing the macro? The big picture is so much less complicated, and its meaningful. However, I guess Brian one of the paid confusers that keep us from understanding our world. Thanks Brian.

Nov. 16 2007 11:19 AM
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Peter from Brooklyn

George Orwell strikes again. Perpetual war is a method of political control. 20-30 years of living in fear and handing away our rights to protect us, woo hoo.
Fighting a war on terrorism instead of fighting all kinds of religious extremism (Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu) is like fighting the flu by ridding us of our cough, or fighting cancer by attacking the tumors exclusively. We focus on a symptom instead of addressing the cause.

Nov. 16 2007 11:15 AM
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Gary from Manhattan

REALITY CHECK: We’ve been in persistent conflict since 1776--and we’ll continue to be in persistent conflict until we’re no longer a nation. The U.S. was born in conflict, exists in conflicts and will die in conflict.

Nov. 16 2007 11:12 AM
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Paul from Brooklyn

A cabal of central bank owners around the globe have decided that an unending war will bring unending profits and unlimited social control to them.

Its really time to wake up people. This is not a test.

Nov. 16 2007 11:10 AM
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