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Native Americans Today

Wednesday, November 14, 2007

David Martine director of the Shinnecock Nation Cultural Center and Museum on Long Island, talks about modern Native American identity and issues. Diane Fraher Thornton, founder and director of American Indian Artists Inc., and author of Sovereign Bones: New Native American Writing, joins in. And John Doble, director of research at Public Agenda, discusses the report he co-authored, "Walking a Mile: A First Step Toward Mutual Understanding."
Sovereign Bones: New Native American Writing can be found at Amazon.com.

Guests:

John Doble, David Martine and Diane Fraher Thornton,

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Jun. 14 2008 11:10 AM
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Steve from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

This was one of the best segments I have ever listened to on your show. The topic is complex and there is, I'm sorry to say, a lack of basic knowledge amongst even the well educated population, about the history of North America, on the interaction between the pre-Columbian population and the European explorers and settlers. I think these subjects would be worthy of more programs and I urge you to look into that.

Nov. 17 2007 05:35 PM
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NS from New York

What percentage of native blood is needed to be a Native American? Same 1% black as for African American? Asians too? - I’m part Indian
from the lower rung classes in Latin America. Now, my grandkids’ father is half-and half: Antiguan black and Dutch white. My daughter
is half Italian (her father) and me, mut. So, what are my grandkids? Black, White, Indian, or, it I carry this to crossing over the Bering Strait, could they be Asian? I know I could be... It's been years I wear black on Columbus day to commemorate the genocide and the occupation of this land, thatland, this
occupation, that occupation, this genocide, that one. And in Santa Fe, New Mexico, American Indians dress as the bloody Conquistadors to celebrate Columbus day. Go figure! Nobody wants to be simply human w/
human rights. That would be too big a group to manage, to deceive, perhaps?

Nov. 15 2007 10:17 AM
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Gene

This is a very timely example of what I was talking about in a previous message:

Prosecutors make case against Poospatuck cigarette magnate

BY ROBERT E. KESSLER | robert.kessler@newsday.com
7:05 PM EST, November 14, 2007 . . .

Assistant U.S. Attorney James Miskiewicz . . . told a jury at U.S. District Court in Central Islip the words applied to the ruthless way Morrison controlled an almost monopoly of bootleg sales at his Peace Pipe Smoke Shop on the Poospatuck Indian Reservation in Mastic through a campaign of robbery, arson and, finally, murder.

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzcigs1115,0,6145190.story

Nov. 15 2007 12:59 AM
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anonymous

regarding a phone call a while ago, it's true that NY is behind the times. when i moved here from CA, i expected the protests/demonstrations on columbus day to be huge and there was nothing- a parade, in fact. and calling someone a "native american" as opposed to american indian is more or less the equivalent of calling an asian "oriental"...bicoastal differences are amazing...

Nov. 14 2007 11:45 AM
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Benjamin Sands from Tarrytown, NY

NY has legislation on the books about teaching human rights: genocide, slavery and the Holocaust. My children are in the public school system in Westchester. I was surprised that by the 6th grade little if anything is made of the genocide of the Native Americans or the slavery of African Americans in school.

Nov. 14 2007 11:38 AM
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RD from NYC

For purposes of disclosure my article ("Reparations as a basis for the Makah's Right to Whale" Lewis & Clark Law School, Animal Law, vol 12) argues that the Makah's hunt should be permitted by the US govt (even though the Makah explicitly reserved such right in a treaty with the US govt) as a form of reparations due to the horrible treatment of the Makah by the US govt.

Nov. 14 2007 11:32 AM
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jf from ossining

To be fair, I think the segregation works both ways...My Mother's father grew up on a reservation in AZ. Mom is a member, owns land there, etc. but lives in Northern CA. In the 70s, she tried to volunteer her time with local tribes--not her own--and was pretty much rebuffed as an outsider.

Nov. 14 2007 11:29 AM
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AWM from UWS

"1492. As children we were taught to memorize this year with pride and joy as the year people began living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America. Actually, people had been living full and imaginative lives on the continent of North America for hundreds of years before that. 1492 was simply the year sea pirates began to rob, cheat, and kill them."

Kurt Vonnegut

Nov. 14 2007 11:26 AM
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Gene

What do your guests have to say about the charge that some tribes are in the hands of organized crime, often heavily involved in the running of contraband cigarettes between New York and Canada?

While many tribe members want the practice stopped, apparently there is nothing to be done, as the cig-runners control the tribes.

Nov. 14 2007 11:22 AM
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jf from ossining

Sadly, I think most people would be surprised to hear how many tribal members there actually are. I'm not sure why most non-indians think they are extinct....perhaps it's easier to alleviate guilt and responsibility if you don't believe there are any left.

Let's respect those long forgotten treaties, eh? Its' the least we can do and there is a lot we could learn regarding setting up fair and sustainable political systems from them.

Nov. 14 2007 11:08 AM
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RD from NYC

I think American society is far from a mutual understanding of Native Americans today. I wrote an article on the cultural importance of whaling for the Makah tribe. Although the article details how their hunting is sustainable and does not threaten the grey whale species, modern day "environmentalists" (who knows what that means anymore?) and much of society vehemently oppose the hunt regardless. I believe such opposition stems from a soft spot for whales and an ignorance of Native American culture and values.

Nov. 14 2007 10:37 AM
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