Margaret Colgate Love, the former pardon attorney at the Justice Department (1990-1997), offers legal analysis on President Bush's commutation of Scooter Libby's prison sentence.
Add this to the growing list of Actions that aren't quite Bad Enough to be Grounds for Impeachment with the Time we have Left to do so.
And as the time left for impeachment decreases, is there any doubt that the level of offense will increase?
"To Infinity, And Beyond!!!" (thanks, Pixar)
Jul. 03 2007 01:35 PM
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Joan
from Eastchester
After Bush's commutation of Libby's jail sentence, my opinion of the justice system in America under the W. Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rove, etc., tenure could not get any lower.
Where is the justice for Valerie Plame Wilson-an honorable citizen working for the CIA and the good of America?
Jul. 03 2007 12:11 PM
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Christian
from Englewood, NJ
Rich white politicians don't serve real jail time anyway. Bush seems to have succeeded in bringing a hailstorm of criticism on both sides of the political spectrum by denying Libby a 30 month stay at club Fed. A bad example set by commuting what could be seen as an excessive punishment. Well, if you ask me, putting a recreational marijuana user in prison with murders, rapists, and other disturbed individuals is MUCH more excessive than 30 months in club FED for a corrupt politician.
Jul. 03 2007 11:44 AM
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bill of rights
from NYC
hjs nails it. Happy Birthday America. So glad we're hitting our 231st birthday fully engaged in torture and a war that we launched against a non-aggressor nation, wiretapping our citizens without reasonable suspicion, and having a President and Vice President who believes they are utterly above the law and contempt.
Absolutely appalling.
Jul. 03 2007 10:34 AM
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Mitchell Bogard
from Manhattan
Your guest worries about the effects of a jail term on "ordinary people". Libby was a govt. employee involved in the destruction of another govt. employee's life and safety. Hardly an ordinary person. He also would have served his sentence in a prison for white collar criminals. I wouldn't shed too many crocodile tears over that.
Jul. 03 2007 10:32 AM
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Kevin J. Lynch
from Long Valley, NJ
King George I? I knew Paris Hilton would do more time then Scooter & Enron's Ken Lay combined. Is Vice President Dick Cheney making up for Nixon being removed from office and restoring the imperial President?
Jul. 03 2007 10:32 AM
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hjs
from NYC
dear sheila massey only if your a billionair are you allow to skip taxes.
Jul. 03 2007 10:29 AM
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hjs
from NYC
it's the hypocrisy that hurts happy birthday America!
Jul. 03 2007 10:25 AM
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jawbone
from Parsippany, NJ
Ah, mack, I hadn't thought of the longer term strategy of Repubs getting a legal separation, as it were. neat.
Jul. 03 2007 10:25 AM
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sheila massey
from washington heights
Great. Bush makes (again) a mockery of the rule of law. Does this mean I can stop paying my taxes?
Jul. 03 2007 10:25 AM
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Richard
from Hoboken
Everyone complains about executive priviledge until they have it. You got to admire his arrognace...I do.
Jul. 03 2007 10:24 AM
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mack
from Chelsea
In understandable outrage, your liberal need to go Tsk Tsk is blinding you to 1. we already know the President and his men are criminal and have no respect for law or justice 2. They are politicians and privateers first and last. So who benefits? Perhaps they have ralized Libby might still maake some deal or change in prison and/or they want to give the Republican candidates a way to distance themselves from Bush without having to do so on the basis of policy, while aiding a friend
Jul. 03 2007 10:23 AM
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jawbone
from Parsippany, NJ
Also, by having the commutation, Libby may continue to appeal his conviction and can take the Fifth at any questioning--Congressional, grand jury, etc.
So, ta da! Not only Libby gets a get-out-of-jail-free card--the Bush maladministration gets one as well.
Then, the full pardon comes at the end of Bush's term. Does Libby get his law license back automatically then???
Jul. 03 2007 10:23 AM
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Eric Cato
from B'klyn
With a commutation, Libby does not forego his 5th Amendment rights. Had he been pardoned, he would no longer be able to invoke the 5th.
Jul. 03 2007 10:22 AM
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Kai A Diers
from NJ
Montesquieu is crying today and America hopefully too. The seperation of powers is completely destroyed. Clinton, Bush, Ford-- this right to pardon is a remnant of fedual colonial times and unworthy of a real democracy.
Jul. 03 2007 10:19 AM
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steve
from Baltimore
Dear BL,
I'm a life long Democrate and left wing liberal, and I think it's ok that Bush kept Libby out of jail. He was basically accussed of the same thing Clinton did, lying under oath. It is the role of the executive branch to hand out pardons however they like (e.g. like Clinton and Frank Rich). I think the real crime was the Iraq war, and that cannot be investigated in a legal way under our current system. I think we need a better way to censure the execuative branch and need to return the power to declare war to the Congress. A legal battle in to actual law breaking by the execuative branch is largely pointless. It's too slow a process and has too high a standard to find guilt. Simply the executive branch has this power to keep people out of jail. If you don't like it blame the people who voted for Bush. Let's make a new system whereby citzens or they elected representatives can censure immoral (but legal permissible) behaivor.
Steve from Baltimore
Jul. 03 2007 10:19 AM
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Eric Cato
from B'klyn
The fact that many in the press neglect to mention in their profiles of Libby is that he held two official positions in the Bush Administration: 1. Cheney’s Chief of Staff; 2. Special Assistant to the President. In the early days of this scandal, the Assistant to the President position was mentioned, however after the first few days, the official relationship to Bush was consistently omitted. Had the official connection not been played down, more press focus would have been given to this matter all along and it would have been much more difficult for Bush to ‘commute’.
Jul. 03 2007 10:19 AM
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Loyalty will Set You Free!
Add this to the growing list of Actions that aren't quite Bad Enough to be Grounds for Impeachment with the Time we have Left to do so.
And as the time left for impeachment decreases, is there any doubt that the level of offense will increase?
"To Infinity, And Beyond!!!" (thanks, Pixar)
After Bush's commutation of Libby's jail sentence, my opinion of the justice system in America under the W. Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rove, etc., tenure could not get any lower.
Where is the justice for Valerie Plame Wilson-an honorable citizen working for the CIA and the good of America?
Rich white politicians don't serve real jail time anyway. Bush seems to have succeeded in bringing a hailstorm of criticism on both sides of the political spectrum by denying Libby a 30 month stay at club Fed. A bad example set by commuting what could be seen as an excessive punishment. Well, if you ask me, putting a recreational marijuana user in prison with murders, rapists, and other disturbed individuals is MUCH more excessive than 30 months in club FED for a corrupt politician.
hjs nails it. Happy Birthday America. So glad we're hitting our 231st birthday fully engaged in torture and a war that we launched against a non-aggressor nation, wiretapping our citizens without reasonable suspicion, and having a President and Vice President who believes they are utterly above the law and contempt.
Absolutely appalling.
Your guest worries about the effects of a jail term on "ordinary people". Libby was a govt. employee involved in the destruction of another govt. employee's life and safety. Hardly an ordinary person. He also would have served his sentence in a prison for white collar criminals. I wouldn't shed too many crocodile tears over that.
King George I? I knew Paris Hilton would do more time then Scooter & Enron's Ken Lay combined. Is Vice President Dick Cheney making up for Nixon being removed from office and restoring the imperial President?
dear sheila massey
only if your a billionair are you allow to skip taxes.
it's the hypocrisy that hurts
happy birthday America!
Ah, mack, I hadn't thought of the longer term strategy of Repubs getting a legal separation, as it were. neat.
Great. Bush makes (again) a mockery of the rule of law. Does this mean I can stop paying my taxes?
Everyone complains about executive priviledge until they have it. You got to admire his arrognace...I do.
In understandable outrage, your liberal need to go Tsk Tsk is blinding you to 1. we already know the President and his men are criminal and have no respect for law or justice 2. They are politicians and privateers first and last. So who benefits? Perhaps they have ralized Libby might still maake some deal or change in prison and/or they want to give the Republican candidates a way to distance themselves from Bush without having to do so on the basis of policy, while aiding a friend
Also, by having the commutation, Libby may continue to appeal his conviction and can take the Fifth at any questioning--Congressional, grand jury, etc.
So, ta da! Not only Libby gets a get-out-of-jail-free card--the Bush maladministration gets one as well.
Then, the full pardon comes at the end of Bush's term. Does Libby get his law license back automatically then???
With a commutation, Libby does not forego his 5th Amendment rights. Had he been pardoned, he would no longer be able to invoke the 5th.
Montesquieu is crying today and America hopefully too. The seperation of powers is completely destroyed. Clinton, Bush, Ford-- this right to pardon is a remnant of fedual colonial times and unworthy of a real democracy.
Dear BL,
I'm a life long Democrate and left wing liberal, and I think it's ok that Bush kept Libby out of jail. He was basically accussed of the same thing Clinton did, lying under oath. It is the role of the executive branch to hand out pardons however they like (e.g. like Clinton and Frank Rich). I think the real crime was the Iraq war, and that cannot be investigated in a legal way under our current system. I think we need a better way to censure the execuative branch and need to return the power to declare war to the Congress. A legal battle in to actual law breaking by the execuative branch is largely pointless. It's too slow a process and has too high a standard to find guilt. Simply the executive branch has this power to keep people out of jail. If you don't like it blame the people who voted for Bush. Let's make a new system whereby citzens or they elected representatives can censure immoral (but legal permissible) behaivor.
Steve from Baltimore
The fact that many in the press neglect to mention in their profiles of Libby is that he held two official positions in the Bush Administration: 1. Cheney’s Chief of Staff; 2. Special Assistant to the President. In the early days of this scandal, the Assistant to the President position was mentioned, however after the first few days, the official relationship to Bush was consistently omitted. Had the official connection not been played down, more press focus would have been given to this matter all along and it would have been much more difficult for Bush to ‘commute’.
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